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    #16
    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
    By my math that is just over $650 000 a quarter. What area of Saskatchewan that certainly seems like in the upper range of prices per quarter is it not?
    Monette is making more work for themselves....not more money....and it could be a kickback scheme as well...

    Guys will make a deal at 400000 a quarter....inflate the price to 650000 ...borrow the money and then the seller kicks back 250000 somehow and the buyer continues on....with some cash...

    When this party ends....holy cow....even CASE limits the number of combines he can flip in a year...
    Last edited by bucket; Mar 13, 2020, 08:18.

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      #17
      That is the highest price in Saskatchewan for land.

      Monet is interesting I would love to know the Banker. And I think I know the end game canada pension or Ontario teachers.

      Good for the family leaving ag it’s lotto max sask style.

      JD maybe should of waited one more year. Hahahha. No it was a great deal and this is a great deal for the seller.

      I’m all for farmers getting out at these prices because a correction is coming. Chinese are trying to liquidate all over the place. Does the motherland need it’s cash back!

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        #18
        Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
        That is the highest price in Saskatchewan for land.

        Monet is interesting I would love to know the Banker. And I think I know the end game canada pension or Ontario teachers.

        Good for the family leaving ag it’s lotto max sask style.

        JD maybe should of waited one more year. Hahahha. No it was a great deal and this is a great deal for the seller.

        I’m all for farmers getting out at these prices because a correction is coming. Chinese are trying to liquidate all over the place. Does the motherland need it’s cash back!
        If a guy bought at reasonable prices ...lets say sub 100 grand a quarter ....this has to take a bad ride to not weather the storm...that is if you still want to farm...or your kids want to...

        Lets be honest...if your kids didn't want to farm...how long for the "for sale sign" to go up....mine would be gone but my kids are active here and there is opportunity....I just need a banker more like monette's that see the longer term vision...

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          #19
          Monette may be canada's version of the Cargills one day....who knows...

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            #20
            Buddy in MJ told me all his crop neighbors are downsizing and sending extra equipment to RB. One had three 4WD tractors and sent two to RB. Another had two sprayers and sent one to RB. etc. etc.

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              #21
              All I know is when Monette’s farm shows up in Ritchie catalogue, I’m going there to buy a grease gun. Probably never been used....

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                #22
                Originally posted by SASKFARMER View Post
                Monet is interesting I would love to know the Banker. And I think I know the end game canada pension or Ontario teachers.
                You can easily find that out, its all over the titles. Load one up, pay a few bucks and you can see the GSA for all their land.

                I suggest you sit down and have a stiff drink before you load it up.

                Now you know whats its like when I have to take the ditch with my ol 9600 while they move 10 combines and 4 carts past me.
                Last edited by jazz; Mar 13, 2020, 10:02.

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                  #23
                  SO.... How long before RB announces that all spring yard auctions will be online only?
                  No bidders in stands or onsite on sale day!!!!
                  Even some of the farm sales would be limited access with the max attendance rules in some provinces( max 100 or 200)!!!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by ry0972 View Post
                    SO.... How long before RB announces that all spring yard auctions will be online only?
                    No bidders in stands or onsite on sale day!!!!
                    Even some of the farm sales would be limited access with the max attendance rules in some provinces( max 100 or 200)!!!
                    Friend told me their Germany sale is online only, coming up in 2 weeks

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                      #25
                      As farms grow exponentially larger, they have to have large payrolls with employees who may or may not know now to fix a piece of equipment. If you lease and get new stuff every year, the dealer does the fixing. That said, these large farms are like any large corporation nowadays. They operate on extremely thin and declining margins with high debt levels. They hope to make up for the falling margins on increasing volume.

                      We are nearing an inflection point where, if there are not interest rate cuts and soon, the debt burden will force some into default.

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                        #26
                        Another interest rate cut today, party on a little longer.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by nop View Post
                          Friend told me their Germany sale is online only, coming up in 2 weeks
                          Great for business with all those online buyers fees.

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                            #28
                            Credit for the Wolfe Farms deal would have been arranged months ago in what is now a very different economic climate. You may get a different answer from a banker when you ask for a $30 million loan today. I have to wonder how much of that loan is locked in for how many years. I've spoken to farmers who bought land about a year ago and locked in 4.5% on a big portion of the loan for 20 years in the belief that interest rates are bound to go up.

                            It's even worse if, for deals this big, the buyer floats a multi decade bond which is not uncommon in the corporate world. You can't go back to the bond holder and demand an interest rate cut just because the Bank of Canada lowered rates.

                            In my view, this strategy may turn out to be a tragic mistake. When interest rates continue their downward trend into negative territory, your competitors may be able to get a land loan for 1% interest. They will convert the interest saving into a bid on the asset and you won't be able to touch it.

                            These are interesting times to say the least.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
                              Credit for the Wolfe Farms deal would have been arranged months ago in what is now a very different economic climate. You may get a different answer from a banker when you ask for a $30 million loan today. .
                              I disagree, credit just loosened big time. They will be giving loans away like candy now.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                                I disagree, credit just loosened big time. They will be giving loans away like candy now.
                                I don't think it has loosened enough. To get a surge in borrowing, the rate of interest has to get below the rate of return of the marginal borrower. We'll see if these rate cuts do it, but my guess is that they will not.

                                My best guess is that interest rates have to be lowered at about the same magnitude as they were post- 2008. Around 5% off the last peak.

                                That puts the short term rate well into negative territory, around minus 2.5% based on the point at which rates peaked in this current falling interest rate mini-cycle.

                                The central bank essentially has no choice but to follow the yield curve down. If they are stubborn, it will stay inverted and blow up the banking system.

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