I am tupid.....

[agstar77]

this is the big reset , people and especially young people , will learn to work again

Dream on , most can't get off their phones.

[furrowtickler]

Dream on , most can't get off their phones.

Very true but it will be tough to pay those cell phone bills with no job and on pogey.

Take Quebec’s lead , collect government money, transfer payments , then work for cash under the table ..... that the way they run half that economy. The French Canadian mob been doing it for decades ..

[blackpowder]

If I had a fruit vegatable crop to work.
I suspect I would want the offshore.
We're comparing two totally different cultures regarding hiring locals. And two different costs of living when that dollar gets home. Can't compare at all.
Chronically out of work here, you don't want. Recently out of work, you can't afford.

[bucket]

Bucket

"Well those same people didn't give a shit about farmers when harvest went off the tracks ...."

I think your painting far to many Canadians with a broad brush with a statement like that. Many people don't know all the circumstances farmers are facing today as they are ill informed. Many people who I meet are generally interested in farming and understand how important farmers are to the well being of Canada.

As for Canadian workers losing their jobs over night, all I can say is I feel sorry for the vast majority of them. No one seen or understood what the impact covid-19 would have, other than the few USA politicians who got the news early on the severity of covid-19 and unloaded all the their shares.

Empathy is needed by all Canadians right now in every sector!

I hear that nonsense from Conservative MPs offices....we are all in this together....nope...wrong ....I spend my money in Canada ...supporting the economy....

People are being given Canadian money to spend elsewhere to get home....

And the general public even after this passes will still not give a shit about farmers.....

The federal ag minister was on TV today talking about foreign workers instead of talking about the issues she has been ignoring for months if not years...

I probably have a few hundred thousand dollars still in the field....to get through there was no help....signed on the dotted line to get more money ....I might be petty about this but I really don't care about people halfway around the world trying to get home....they are receiving more money from my tax dollars than I am ....And my money is spent here...

I have in-laws coming home....have to take them a vehicle to drive themselves home...not really a big deal but its a bit of an inconvenience...

[FarmJunkie]

Bucket is right on the money. 99% of the people now a days don’t give a shit about what goes on on a farm. The only time they might care is if the shelves at the grocery store go empty. Even then they will still wanna tell u how to grow it dealing with mother nature’s bullshit. Spoiled asses. Just goggle farming. It’s easy according to Mike Bloomberg.

[burnt]

Not sure about Ontario, but my mexican worker gets about $58k for 8 months work. Don't assume they are all minimum wage jobs.

I also am not expecting someone to move from Ontario and maintain two places rather than collect EI. But someone in my town who has a 14 mile commute. Why not?

There is a huge influx of migrant workers in lower southern Ontario each year, but not many within an hour of here.

There are degrees of ambition among those who are laid off. I know those who will gladly go or travel to where those jobs are and do whatever it takes. And this year with its uncertainties might be the best chance that they have to fill some of those jobs.

I also know that there are those who will happily - or unhappily - wait for the brown envelope to show up.

I do agree that if there is need for migrant workers, there should be very few able-bodied people on welfare or EI.

seems to me that an empty belly would make a damn strong incentive, but that's not how it seems to work anymore.

One positive outcome that will undoubtedly rise from the ashes of the Chinese flu is that it will give opportunity for human ingenuity to show its limitless abilities. It will be interesting to see who will find a need and harness all their creativity to fill it.

Hey, maybe the next Bill Gates walked out of his workplace with pink slip in hand today!!

[blackpowder]

Nothing personal at all.
But I urge farmers not to compare any plight they may have with a wage earning family without an income.
I had one neighbor tell me " now they know how it feels"
NO. We can sell a quarter of land and seed again. We can sell out and live quite well.
Their daily income just dropped. And their retirement became quite different.
If we want empathy we have to give it.
My neighbor has never been past the post office. And succeeded in angering some non farmers.

[Guest]

Nothing personal at all.
But I urge farmers not to compare any plight they may have with a wage earning family without an income.
I had one neighbor tell me " now they know how it feels"
NO. We can sell a quarter of land and seed again. We can sell out and live quite well.
Their daily income just dropped. And their retirement became quite different.
If we want empathy we have to give it.
My neighbor has never been past the post office. And succeeded in angering some non farmers.

I agree wholeheartedly BP
Brother in law owns a rental property and all the renters just told him they can’t pay

[longmire]

Hear confirmed case in west central sask today.

[ajl]

Now that interest rates are 0% again, you just use your real estate as an ATM and don't bother looking for a job after the bennies run out. Most farmers can and do do that everyday as most people have gotten wealthy in this country through real estate speculation. If we ever have free markets again in this country where government no longer prints money then this strategy will not work and the job search is back on. But so long as the printing press is running only a fool works for a living.

[GDR]

I agree wholeheartedly BP
Brother in law owns a rental property and all the renters just told him they can’t pay

I do sympathize with everyone's struggles, but the AB government basically said flat out here that landlords should be accommodating to tenants. BP is right it is different for farmers but that doesnt mean wage earners shouldnt be prepared for a month or two of no income regardless of reason. We are only a few weeks into this, what's it gonna be like by summer? I still have a mortgage payment to make on my rental property, pretty hard to take it both ways by paying that and giving rent away.

[parsley]

So today there was some announcement about temporary foreign workers required for farms....something is not right here...


500000 people filed for unemployment last week....

Call me tupid....but someone is a little mixed up...it may be me...

Those positions could be filled domestically?

You bet they can be filled domestically.

[bucket]

Nothing personal at all.
But I urge farmers not to compare any plight they may have with a wage earning family without an income.
I had one neighbor tell me " now they know how it feels"
NO. We can sell a quarter of land and seed again. We can sell out and live quite well.
Their daily income just dropped. And their retirement became quite different.
If we want empathy we have to give it.
My neighbor has never been past the post office. And succeeded in angering some non farmers.

I guess instead of buying a 500k home they should have bought land...or they could sell their 500k house and live in a lower priced one ....and still have no money....

[blackpowder]

No doubt that is true. Although it worked with the income at the time. Perhaps we should go back to 50% down rules for lending?
Agree no one needs to eat out every day and drive a vehicle worth 20-30% of their house.
Although, in our town of 800 there are 30 houses for sale all below 250. Some for a year now.
The price people pay for vehicles and toys disgust me. But towns will dry up and people's only equity went poof.
Although resets are necessary if that's what this is, I hold no glee. I am a bitter old man not a space space nt.