Supply managed turkey

[Sheepwheat]

So from what I can tell, 11 Saskatchewan farmers raise turkeys under the system currently. My daughter wants to raise a few hundred this year, she did really well last year, but wants to expand.

But she can’t. You can only raise 99 without quota.

A great opportunity came up for her, but she can’t capitalize. The current quota producers do not raise to spec, what the buyers want. We do.

In a free country, why can’t a 13 year old with ambition supply a needy market?

Just rambling again. What an utterly STUPID system.

[burnt]

Well Sheepwheat, I can tell you why.

It's because she might pose a threat to the guy in our neighborhood who happens to be the largest turkey quota holder in Ontario, maybe even Canada.

He has barns spread all over southern Ontario, raising turkeys by the tens of thousands. He has become one of the wealthiest farmers in the country.

So if your daughter would raise 300 turkeys, she would threaten to topple his little empire.

Because not only might your daughter be allowed to practice free enterprise, but then your other sons and daughters, and other fathers' sons and daughters, might want to become capitalists as well - and you see where this is leading.

And if he were to loose his grip on the turkey industry, he would have to fall back on the massive wealth he created by buying up old age homes and related industries.

So in my best greta impersonation, including twisted face and diabolical eyes, I challenge you - HOW DARE YOU?

Supply management has become one of the best-intentioned, badly misguided and mismanaged schemes in farming.

[LEP]

Seriously though, would anybody know if she had 150? She could claim half were another siblings. Likely if you buy the chicks in two different names no one would check or know.

[Ab7]

Well Sheepwheat, I can tell you why.

It's because she might pose a threat to the guy in our neighborhood who happens to be the largest turkey quota holder in Ontario, maybe even Canada.

He has barns spread all over southern Ontario, raising turkeys by the tens of thousands. He has become one of the wealthiest farmers in the country.

So if your daughter would raise 300 turkeys, she would threaten to topple his little empire.

Because not only might your daughter be allowed to practice free enterprise, but then your other sons and daughters, and other fathers' sons and daughters, might want to become capitalists as well - and you see where this is leading.

And if he were to loose his grip on the turkey industry, he would have to fall back on the massive wealth he created by buying up old age homes and related industries.

So in my best greta impersonation, including twisted face and diabolical eyes, I challenge you - HOW DARE YOU?

Supply management has become one of the best-intentioned, badly misguided and mismanaged schemes in farming.

Well said. Sm farms will do anything to keep competition out. It’s pretty selfish.

[dalek]

Seriously though, would anybody know if she had 150? She could claim half were another siblings. Likely if you buy the chicks in two different names no one would check or know.

They would know when they go to slaughter. Inspectors keep track.
They do an amazing number of random inspections here to make sure you don’t have too many but our limit for turkeys is 50

[Ab7]

Seriously though, would anybody know if she had 150? She could claim half were another siblings. Likely if you buy the chicks in two different names no one would check or know.

There should be a Canada wide exemption
Allowing you to milk fifteen or 20 cows, have a couple thousand chickens or turkeys, or layers or whatever. What consumer would choose to pay extra for their food when this money is going to multi multi millionaires. This needs to be shaken up

[bobofthenorth]

She could state that the turkeys identify as cattle.

[Ab7]

She could state that the turkeys identify as cattle.

I bet 90% of consumers would choose to burn this system down if they knew how it worked

[GDR]

What's stopping her from buying quota and playing by the rules? Is it fair to the other producers required to buy quota to farm to allow someone else not to have that cost? It becomes a slippery slope to start making exemptions for everyone that thinks they deserve one and then the whole system collapses. There is a point where a hobby turns into a business, in AB it is 99 turkeys.

If she doesn't like that have her start raising ducks, no quota, lots of opportunity there for eggs and meat.

[burnt]

What's stopping her from buying quota and playing by the rules? Is it fair to the other producers required to buy quota to farm to allow someone else not to have that cost? It becomes a slippery slope to start making exemptions for everyone that thinks they deserve one and then the whole system collapses. There is a point where a hobby turns into a business, in AB it is 99 turkeys.

If she doesn't like that have her start raising ducks, no quota, lots of opportunity there for eggs and meat.

Surely you jest.

[Taiga]

How about you have 99, your wife take 99, and each kid take 99?

[dalek]

What's stopping her from buying quota and playing by the rules? Is it fair to the other producers required to buy quota to farm to allow someone else not to have that cost? It becomes a slippery slope to start making exemptions for everyone that thinks they deserve one and then the whole system collapses. There is a point where a hobby turns into a business, in AB it is 99 turkeys.

If she doesn't like that have her start raising ducks, no quota, lots of opportunity there for eggs and meat.

For one thing she can’t own quota until she’s 18. For another thing there’s no turkey quota for sale.

[Ab7]

What's stopping her from buying quota and playing by the rules? Is it fair to the other producers required to buy quota to farm to allow someone else not to have that cost? It becomes a slippery slope to start making exemptions for everyone that thinks they deserve one and then the whole system collapses. There is a point where a hobby turns into a business, in AB it is 99 turkeys.

If she doesn't like that have her start raising ducks, no quota, lots of opportunity there for eggs and meat.

It’s not a slipper slope because nobody wants the system anyways. Ya she should go pay the outrageous price for the quota when the corporate farms inherited it or bought it very low.
Your an idiot

[AlbertaFarmer5]

How about you have 99, your wife take 99, and each kid take 99?

And if I recall correctly, sheepwheat has enough kids that they could easily have a few thousand Turkeys by that method.

[MBgrower]

SM = welfare for the rich. why do we need SM for chicken and turkey production anyways?