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    World needs every acre seeded?

    One would think with the way things may
    Turn out the last thing the world would
    Need is a crop shortage? Even if every acre
    Is seeded will there be inputs fertilizer,
    Chemical, fuel if businesses shut down?

    Both our federal and provincial governments
    Dropped rhe ball on being prepared for the virus
    It seems they can’t catch up in that and
    Are not even focused on what essential
    Things should be taken care of besides
    The virus.

    What about money for all these inputs
    Tons of crop our input bills crazy interest being
    Charges crop insurance canceling contracts
    Sask ag taking land away from guys after
    Tripling rents? Grain drying costs? They don’t
    Want our fall grain will they even take any
    Spring threshed? Banks appear lost as to
    What to do.
    Mortgages supposedly pushed back yet
    People are saying it isn’t happening foreclosure
    On the way? Shouldn’t things just be halted
    Instead of destroying everyone that’s
    Struggling? Just the rich will get richer?
    Fk everyone else?

    Should we be setting up processing of
    Food here for the basics?

    Where Is our sask party you know
    The ones that Do so much for farmers?

    Where is nfu?

    Where is apas?

    Where is canola growers? Wheat growers?
    Barley growers etc etc

    #2
    Should we be setting up processing of
    Food here for the basics?
    YES

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      #3
      I know we may be changing crop plans after next week if SHTF.
      We have most of what we need for current plans , but not interested is growing crops that nobody may want .
      Time will tell at this point , but we are thinking hard .....
      More peas
      More Blackbeans
      Maybe some other edible beans
      Feed barley .. cows still need to eat
      Lentils possibly again .
      Most of these can be hauled off farm , no need for rail .

      Will canola crushers keep going hard ????
      Exports could crash
      Too bad we have extremely limited wheat milling in western Canada .......
      this shipping out raw bulk products for decades could haunt us now

      Or plan C , don’t seed an acre . Save the tremendous expenses, keep fert for next year . Clean up land a bit . Hit reset next year.
      Would help break disease and weed cycles
      Last edited by furrowtickler; Mar 22, 2020, 07:53.

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        #4
        At this rate, the govt will be telling you what to grow and how much of it and what price you are going to get for it.

        So don't worry, its all taken care for you.

        Nobody is clamouring for more food supply. If it was an issue wouldn't govts be out there asking farmers to be part of the firewall on this event. Zero relief going their way and with asset prices resetting, that could mean commodities resetting too. I sure as hell wouldn't be trying to run off 60bu canola and hope it finds a home. Cereals and pulses, more versatile food sources, easily storable for long periods.

        I have loaded the cash advances just in case it all goes sideways.
        Last edited by jazz; Mar 22, 2020, 08:03.

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          #5
          How about seeing as the government and other folks aren’t on board with farmers, try a novel idea?

          Figure it out on our own?

          Unless of course, we feel like suddenly the government is going to get on board with us?

          Newsflash. They aren’t. So we gotta figure it out on our own. Each of us has to do what it takes, and it will look different for all of us. But there are several ways to stop this reliance or the hope that the government will step in and help us.

          Hint. Mass producing export and railway reliant commodities in huge amounts, while relying on massive inputs, sky high machinery costs, isn’t working, hasn’t been working, and never will work, at least in western Canada. I think we have crossed a tipping point.

          So time to start thinking outside the bloody box. Government isn’t going to magically save our farms. Nfu, apas, canola growers? Them neither.

          Have a little chat with the man in the mirror and the family in your life. See what those people can come up with. The sky is literally the limit to agriculture in Saskatchewan. But we need to look at it differently than ever before. I have high hopes and faith in our sector. I think we could grow the farming population. But not the way we have been doing agriculture. It should be obvious it isn’t working.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
            How about seeing as the government and other folks aren’t on board with farmers, try a novel idea?

            Figure it out on our own?

            Unless of course, we feel like suddenly the government is going to get on board with us?

            Newsflash. They aren’t. So we gotta figure it out on our own. Each of us has to do what it takes, and it will look different for all of us. But there are several ways to stop this reliance or the hope that the government will step in and help us.

            Hint. Mass producing export and railway reliant commodities in huge amounts, while relying on massive inputs, sky high machinery costs, isn’t working, hasn’t been working, and never will work, at least in western Canada. I think we have crossed a tipping point.

            So time to start thinking outside the bloody box. Government isn’t going to magically save our farms. Nfu, apas, canola growers? Them neither.

            Have a little chat with the man in the mirror and the family in your life. See what those people can come up with. The sky is literally the limit to agriculture in Saskatchewan. But we need to look at it differently than ever before. I have high hopes and faith in our sector. I think we could grow the farming population. But not the way we have been doing agriculture. It should be obvious it isn’t working.
            That is also good advice for people that get a new job and in three weeks are living in an inflated 500k home....that isn't affordable....

            The general public now needs help because of their own stupidity ...a new piece or a newer piece of used is a necessary evil in the world of farming ...

            I also will note here although a little off topic...maybe freight rates could come down since the price of fuel is down????? But they won't...

            Trucking companies could be lowering their rates as they used the fuel price as an excuse to increase them???? Don't want to speak ill of farmers that run trucking companies...

            Ports, railways, trucking companies and graincos will all have access to government support for the corvid 19 issues.....notice anyone missing from all the announcements made to date?

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              #7
              Originally posted by bucket View Post
              That is also good advice for people that get a new job and in three weeks are living in an inflated 500k home....that isn't affordable....

              The general public now needs help because of their own stupidity ...a new piece or a newer piece of used is a necessary evil in the world of farming ...

              I also will note here although a little off topic...maybe freight rates could come down since the price of fuel is down????? But they won't...

              Trucking companies could be lowering their rates as they used the fuel price as an excuse to increase them???? Don't want to speak ill of farmers that run trucking companies...

              Ports, railways, trucking companies and graincos will all have access to government support for the corvid 19 issues.....notice anyone missing from all the announcements made to date?
              Only one thing will change that , don’t seed a crop. But that’s most likely not going to happen, too many vultures circling

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                #8
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Only one thing will change that , don’t seed a crop. But that’s most likely not going to happen, too many vultures circling
                1000 percent agreed and it is a greed....I always think off selling and getting back in at a lower price...but know it would not happen...

                Those that want to farm many many acres lurk around every corner and listen intently to any sign of someone thinking of getting out...

                What they don't realize is they would be far better off doing as you suggest..

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                  #9
                  If there is a silver lining to this cloud, it is that this thing has hit at a time of year when there is still some wiggle room on adjusting acres to the most beneficial crop.

                  The challenge is to identify it.

                  We are looking at raising a chunk of potatoes. Not huge, but enough to make it worth doing with mechanical help.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by burnt View Post
                    If there is a silver lining to this cloud, it is that this thing has hit at a time of year when there is still some wiggle room on adjusting acres to the most beneficial crop.

                    The challenge is to identify it.

                    We are looking at raising a chunk of potatoes. Not huge, but enough to make it worth doing with mechanical help.
                    Shush! The point is to do your thing and not get everyone growing the same thing. I just switched from potatoes to cabbages, thanks to your post!

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                      #11
                      I know our sweet corn 🌽 patch will get our full attention this year lol .

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bucket View Post
                        1000 percent agreed and it is a greed....I always think off selling and getting back in at a lower price...but know it would not happen...

                        Those that want to farm many many acres lurk around every corner and listen intently to any sign of someone thinking of getting out...

                        What they don't realize is they would be far better off doing as you suggest..
                        Yes , there are vultures circling. I bet everyone that posts on agriville can tell a story or three about how a BTO , or group of them are patiently waiting for a small farmer to fail , and pack it in. Some of the more famous lines like " we need to look out for one another" , or whatever line of bs you put in. I know of a few in this area that are going to have a rude awakening from a few of "the little guys".

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
                          Shush! The point is to do your thing and not get everyone growing the same thing. I just switched from potatoes to cabbages, thanks to your post!
                          LOL!

                          My most abject apologies, offered from a minimum of 6'.

                          But darn it, now you went and blew my cover - I was gonna grow cabbage, but wasn't going to say it outright in case someone copied my brilliant innovation!

                          Now what? We've likely gone and ruined both markets, LOL!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by GALAXIE500 View Post
                            Yes , there are vultures circling. I bet everyone that posts on agriville can tell a story or three about how a BTO , or group of them are patiently waiting for a small farmer to fail , and pack it in. Some of the more famous lines like " we need to look out for one another" , or whatever line of bs you put in. I know of a few in this area that are going to have a rude awakening from a few of "the little guys".
                            One guy came to me and suggested “helping you out in anyway I can, like if you need me to rent your land...” I kid you not. I guess if my main tractor is worth what his auger is worth I must look like I need help?

                            Another came by and asked me if he could help me out by buying a couple quarters of land!

                            Leaves a sour taste in my mouth for sure. Lol

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                              #15
                              Who knows what’s happening next month let alone a year from now? We just need some seed delivered which we should make happen shortly. Looking for a couple big fuel tanks too. Otherwise full steam ahead and hopefully everyone makes it through to the “other side” .......... whatever that is.

                              No sense in worrying about $hit beyond your control. Stress kills.

                              The sun still came up today and one day closer to spring although the snow is still drifting here.

                              If someone doesn’t want to put a crop in I fully support them.

                              This “crop” is due in less than a month wether I like it or not. Enjoy your day in paradise. 🍀

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