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Lets make a bet which one makes it to a theraputic first, 60 yr old generic drug, expensive untested 10 yr long trial drug like remdesivir or vaccine in a class of diseases never developed before.
I bet by end of summer HCQ is the weapon of choice for the fake second wave.
Trump has big pharma and bill gates by the nuts. If they rush research on this disease, they will cut off their nose to spite their faces. Because they will have found a cure for colds, flus, pneumonia, AIDs, Ebola, SARS. MERS, and every viral disease on the planet. No more Tylenol and Nyquil sales.
If not, trump gets a generic drug approved that does the same thing. Either way they are fd.Last edited by jazz; May 22, 2020, 11:21.
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Originally posted by jazz View PostLets make a bet which one makes it to a theraputic first, 60 yr old generic drug, expensive untested 10 yr long trial drug like remdesivir or vaccine in a class of diseases never developed before.
I bet by end of summer HCQ is the weapon of choice for the fake second wave.
Trump has big pharma and bill gates by the nuts. If they rush research on this disease, they will cut off their nose to spite their faces. Because they will have found a cure for colds, flus, pneumonia, AIDs, Ebola, SARS. MERS, and every viral disease on the planet. No more Tylenol and Nyquil sales.
If not, trump gets a generic drug approved that does the same thing. Either way they are fd.
Thank God many of the staff departments are doing things that make sense for that country all on their own and he doesn’t even know it.
On a side note trumps cuts to infrastructure starting to show up now bridges dams etc failing. It looks good on paper to say wow look I cut this much but the results take time to come home to roost and they are. When you go to the states drive fast under the underpasses many inspectors who were cut back say there will be one fail not too far off. Could only hope if it does that the orange blob would be the one under it.
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Originally posted by jazz View PostLets make a bet which one makes it to a theraputic first, 60 yr old generic drug, expensive untested 10 yr long trial drug like remdesivir or vaccine in a class of diseases never developed before.
I bet by end of summer HCQ is the weapon of choice for the fake second wave.
Trump has big pharma and bill gates by the nuts. If they rush research on this disease, they will cut off their nose to spite their faces. Because they will have found a cure for colds, flus, pneumonia, AIDs, Ebola, SARS. MERS, and every viral disease on the planet. No more Tylenol and Nyquil sales.
If not, trump gets a generic drug approved that does the same thing. Either way they are fd.
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BREAKING NEWS...May22
Three studies find that hydroxychloroquine reduces chances of contracting Covid, so ICMR allows more frontline workers to take it as a preventive drug.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/lifestyle/pets-animals/hcq-breakthrough-icmr-finds-it-s-effective-in-preventing-coronavirus-expands-its-use/ar-BB14tiaA https://www.msn.com/en-in/lifestyle/pets-animals/hcq-breakthrough-icmr-finds-it-s-effective-in-preventing-coronavirus-expands-its-use/ar-BB14tiaA
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Originally posted by tweety View Post96,000 patients from 631 hospitals say you are an idiot. Oh and the bleach drinking orange orangutan with the same IQ as you, also an idiot
Originally posted by agstar77 View PostMaybe because Trump represents everything despicable in Humanity.
Wow. These comments say more about the ones making them than anything or anyone else.
But they appear to be functioning at the highest level of their capability, so sad.
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Originally posted by fjlip View PostAnd HCQ is only 5 cents a pill, lets make sure that never gets used, NO PROFIT for BIG Pharma!
Take a step back, look at what you wrote, and do just a tiny bit of critical thinking. Quite the collection here, wow is right.
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Originally posted by tweety View PostYes, prescribe a drug that increases heart attacks, deaths, and does not help Covid19 because it costs 5 cents.
Take a step back, look at what you wrote, and do just a tiny bit of critical thinking. Quite the collection here, wow is right.
...are you so naive you think pharma wouldn]t goose a study for their own benefit?
Jerry Coyne, a relatively famous evolutionary biologist reversed his opinion of the study after writing a comment on his blog raking trump and his doctor over the coals
In two comments below, my own physician, Dr. Alex Lickerman, who carefully read the study I describe below (see his first comment and his second), noted that the sickest patients were the ones more likely to be given the chloroquine drugs, and were also the patients with the highest comorbidities—factors like heart disease that would tend to make them sicker. In other words, as Alex notes,
So–was it the drugs that were responsible for their increased likelihood of death or the risk factors already known to increase the likelihood of death? We simply can’t tell from this study. This is the problem with the observational study design. We CAN almost certainly say that hydroxychloroquine and its ilk don’t improve survival in COVID-19, but whether or not they increase mortality in COVID-19 we don’t yet know.
I am guilty of not having detected the flaws in the study, which are, I found, not even clearly pointed out by its authors in the traditional “here-are-some-weaknesses-in-this-study†part of the paper, and I thank Alex for the clarification. But even more culpable are the reviewers of that study, who did not insist on a clear outline of its limitations, as well as the medical/science journalists, who touted the study uncritically (like me!) Alex has helped me learn that many medical studies, even in journals as reputable as The Lancet, are pitifully weak or even fatally flawed.
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