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    #16
    Originally posted by jimmy View Post
    What’s with Switzerland it’s business as usual there. I think they are the only country In the world not shutting down their economy.
    From Switzerland:

    New coronavirus
    Federal Council recommendation

    Stay at home, particularly if you are over the age of 65 or ill; unless you have to go to work and are unable to work from home; unless you have to go to the doctor’s or to the pharmacy; unless you have to go shopping or help someone.
    The Federal Council and Switzerland are counting on you!

    New Coronavirus: Evaluation of anonymised data on gatherings

    27.3.20 - On 21 March, the Federal Council prohibited gatherings of more than five people in public spaces. We with the help of Swisscom’s analyses and graphics we are assessing whether this measure is being respected. We do not receive any location data; all data is anonymised and aggregated. It is not possible to make inferences about specific individuals.

    Current situation in Switzerland
    3.4.2020, 8 am, cases confirmed in Switzerland:

    No. of people tested positive (for coronavirus): 19,303
    Deaths: 484 people

    The figures published here are based on notifications received until early morning. They generally correspond to the date on which the sample was taken by the doctor. The figures contained in the report and in the Excel table may therefore differ from those communicated by the cantons.

    https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/situation-schweiz-und-international.html

    In Canada* Cases:10,228 Dead: 129

    https://www.alberta.ca/covid-19-alberta-data.aspx?fbclid=IwAR1rGMVAbzTvJJG3ult317tirDNd6g7 KyC3_3_1M_cHvxDAeQgxBk_2xK9E#toc-1
    Last edited by TOM4CWB; Apr 3, 2020, 07:37.

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      #17
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      Macdon, when you talk about young people losing their drive, immediately the situation in Alberta comes to mind. How can the young be mentally healthy? They have been robbed and brutalized by despotic eastern thugs. They are living a nightmare. Just saying sorry to all of those who have gone all in and got hammered by a “nut house”.
      Not all of them.

      My son finished his Masters in Chemical Engineering a couple years ago, did his coop in Germany and with CoSyn here in Canada. Syncrude immediately hired him for research where his first project was to remove Chlorine from sand water that makes HydroChloric acid and eats everything out costing millionsssss in damage a year. Takes the company jet to Fort Mac and home again, he's 27.

      His wife, graduated 4 years ago with Mech Eng, is a maintenance engineer for Suncor in charge of a huge compressor station.

      Could go thru the list of their friends with similar stories. So don't assume they are all in that state. The ones who have worked hard on the right education and don't have face piercings and pink hair are doing ok. Who knows what the future brings, but its the same for everyone.

      Maybe having people face real problems and risk in their lives will help them from making up ones that don't exist like the anti-vax movement, or GMO is bad, or diet drinks are killing us. It might help them remember where their food comes from, just how important the truckers are, that we aren't invincible, and that technology can't save every problem.

      Farmers are no better, short rotations are the perfect breeding ground for the next crop disease pandemic - we know the potential for problems, but won't change till its too late. Technology will save us, right?

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        #18
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
        Macdon, when you talk about young people losing their drive, immediately the situation in Alberta comes to mind. How can the young be mentally healthy? They have been robbed and brutalized by despotic eastern thugs. They are living a nightmare. Just saying sorry to all of those who have gone all in and got hammered by a “nut house”.
        Oh please they definately should not try farming
        These powder puffs need a wake up call that others have had all our lives. Spoiled brats living high in the hog overpaid relative to the frontline workers that are obviously so underpaid and valued and saving all our asses. Shit happens if you have it together you ll find a way. Why the hell aren t they buying sheep? Lol

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          #19
          I had a conversation a week or so ago with someone much smarter than myself on issues like Covid-19. My first question was does all this isolation and social distancing just delay the inevitable infection or exposure to this virus? Her response was yes that was correct to an extent. The goal of government is to reduce the level of initial infections so that the health system isn't overwhelmed and to give medical experts time to develope a treatment protocol or a vaccine. Then I asked what percentage of the population would have to be exposed before we were theoretically safe. She said to create what is known as herd immunity you would need close to 70% of the population exposed to the virus. Think about that, we have had what 1 or 2 percent exposed now, long road to herd immunity.

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            #20
            Sum

            Are you posting B.S like this looking for friends on Agriville or joining a certain club, because you sure the hell don't speak for my children and their spouse. All have secondary schooling are all currently working while covid-19.

            Not to mention all nieces and nephews who are still working even the ones involved in oil in Sk.

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              #21
              Originally posted by jimmy View Post
              What’s with Switzerland it’s business as usual there. I think they are the only country In the world not shutting down their economy.
              The upper 1% have been fleeing for a while ..


              Others on their super yachts
              Look at all the high profile resignations since Jan 1 .

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                #22
                Originally posted by burnt View Post
                Just imagine a reality show with Wheelie Bin, aggie and mussie and a couple of others all quarantined together.

                A catchy name like "Chuckie's Covid Cohort Crack-up", maybe...

                Wow.
                You can join the COV-IDIOTS with JAZZ et.al.

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                  #23
                  The problem with Prickville is that one can't tell if someone is being sarcastic, humorous or serious.

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                    #24
                    The economy was a fictional story that was unsustainable. Everybody borrowed to the max, no one facing reality, people spend 3x what they make....

                    This may very well be the best thing to happen to the economy - reality. Not the human life lost - but the economy needed a serious kick in the a$$.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by wd9 View Post
                      The economy was a fictional story that was unsustainable. Everybody borrowed to the max, no one facing reality, people spend 3x what they make....

                      This may very well be the best thing to happen to the economy - reality. Not the human life lost - but the economy needed a serious kick in the a$$.
                      I agree, this would be a prime time and a prime excuse to let the inevitable reset happen, and start fresh. Except so far, that does not appear to be the intention.

                      So far, the plan seems to be to reward those who were least prepared, and least responsible, at add more debt at all levels, to make borrowing costs even cheaper, and to punish savers even more, to remove all motivation to be responsible and prepare for the next downturn.

                      If there is any lesson to be learned here, it is that being financially prudent and responsible will be punished, and will result in you having to pay for the irresponsibility of everyone else who now knows for certain that the government will bail them out no matter how badly they mess up. Just shifted a whole bunch more people permanently from the makers, to the takers column, and they will vote accordingly.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by wd9 View Post
                        The economy was a fictional story that was unsustainable. Everybody borrowed to the max, no one facing reality, people spend 3x what they make....

                        This may very well be the best thing to happen to the economy - reality. Not the human life lost - but the economy needed a serious kick in the a$$.
                        Good points it definitely does and also all the kooky priorities pushed by Hollywood need a reset.

                        I predict a large % of stimulus/unemployment/welfare cheque’s will end up going to recreational activities and items. I’m sure every lake and park still fills up with huge campers, boats and jet skis this summer and all the maxed out seniors still flock to Arizona next winter.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by TOM4CWB View Post
                          AlbertaFarmer5 please read this!

                          https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

                          This is about allowing our medical folks a decent chance to help people.

                          If there are only enough ICU beds for 20 percent of the sick people... many many more people than just those with Covid-19 die.

                          All the best and I hope you and yours have a safe spring that does not require any medical attention! Be Safe!!

                          Alberta Covid-19 stats... looks like we are near the peak of Covid-19. Alberta Health have good info on our progress!

                          April 2 Alberta update on Corvid-19-[ one day increase since April1] from Alberta Health:
                          1. April 2 Alberta 57096 tested [3952 more since April 1(53144)];
                          2. 986 positives [115 more since April 1( 871)];
                          3.13 dead [2 more since April 1 (11)]
                          4. 67 Hospitalizations
                          5. 21 Admissions to ICU
                          6. 61% cases in Calgary
                          7. 49% Male

                          https://covid19stats.alberta.ca/ give the statistics which are starting to peak for Alberta.

                          Have a look at the Geospatial and age data:

                          87% of people being infected come from Calgary and Edmonton. The vast majority are 20-54 years old... because Alberta has a younger average age of our population.

                          If someone would be kind enough to 'hot link' these two sites that would be appreciated. Thanks.
                          Here are the hotlinks for you TOM
                          https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

                          https://covid19stats.alberta.ca https://covid19stats.alberta.ca

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                            Sum

                            Are you posting B.S like this looking for friends on Agriville or joining a certain club, because you sure the hell don't speak for my children and their spouse. All have secondary schooling are all currently working while covid-19.

                            Not to mention all nieces and nephews who are still working even the ones involved in oil in Sk.
                            Good for you and yours if they have not been affected, that could still change. Jusy saying.

                            . If you think that all the pipeline cancellations have had no effect on many, many Alberta and Saskatchewan families, you are delusional. I have many relatives and friends who have lost all hope and the stress has broken up families. My nephews company went from 100 plus employees and five regional offices down to the owner and three other travelling reps. Westerners are just spinning their wheels - treading water. The Eastern dictators are and will destroy the energy sector and for that you are grateful but I AM NOT.

                            When Trudeau is asked about support for vulnerable sectors, his standard irrelevant answer is, “we are consulting with “. I am consulting with my dog right now, what good does consultation do if I never intend to follow through to make his life better? Actors Act.
                            Last edited by sumdumguy; Apr 3, 2020, 11:31.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                              You can join the COV-IDIOTS with JAZZ et.al.
                              well geez agstarr, you are such an intellectual there.

                              Are you going to be tracking all the other deaths out there after this? Suicide, overdose, addiction. Increases in heart disease, homicide, domestic abuse, divorce.

                              You do know 800K kids go missing every year. Have you shed a tear for them or do anything to protect them you fing hypocrite?

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                                #30
                                Comment from Australia McDon our PM conservative been pretty pro active yesterday in a press conference suggested lock down May stay till October if not longer. Reintegrate he said may stay.

                                Man is our PM looking drained bushfires floods now cv19

                                Have to give my own household comment being on a farm well lockdown ain’t a issue i shop as per normal but often come home empty handed. Abide by distancing in shops disinfectant etc.

                                But real issue is my wife, she was hospitalised with swine flu maybe 7 years ago in hospital for 8 to 10 days isolation ward only in critical for one day. Got ambulances there. Specialist said here immune systems are weak. She got diagnosed with a probably side issue while there fibromyalgia. Any way if she got cv19 highly likely it would kill her.

                                Hence it’s a serious issue to me and my family.

                                Wife goes basically no we’re.

                                Don’t talk about wool market biggest one day fall in 17 years on Tuesday gonna take years to recover. Chinese mills back in action, can’t get wool there, Chinese can’t get finished product out, and if they could countries can’t get it in and then no shops open to sell clothes. Disaster.

                                Meat returns holding up just after initial falls grain holding up as well domestic may be king here again if grain can’t be exported and imported and flour moved etc

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