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    #25
    Originally posted by fjlip View Post
    What about the EYES? Masks no help there. No comments, what do others think? Viruses enter there too...
    Masks keep upwards of 95% of the particles out of the air, but yes you're right eye protection is a good idea.
    Last edited by biglentil; Apr 6, 2020, 09:34.

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      #26
      As soon as society starts going back to "normal'" the numbers will once again sky rocket. This will go on for months.

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        #27
        Many who comment on the present covid-19 situation say the authorities were listening to scientists and health organizations and then forming policy. I think that is true.

        Many lament that the authority's choice and implementation of policy has seemingly got many nations behind the curve and in danger of having their hospital facilities overtaxed and unable to give the best care possible to the sick.

        What could or should have been done to get ahead of the curve? Any comments?

        Just a thought, while we may not see ICU's all across the world overflowing with covid-19 cases, really is that a bad thing? How exactly could the spread of a contagious disease be managed so that just the right amount of admissions into ICU's were maintained? This is not something that can be managed with precision in an open society with individual rights.

        Unrelated but I will add it here: This situation is exactly why an individual should draw up a health care directive. It relieves the system from going all out to try save someone with an incurable or terminal disease/illness.

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          #28
          "What could or should have been done to get ahead of the curve? Any comments?"

          I said way back, anyone travelling out of country should be clearly informed that they MIGHT not get back in if something like this shows up else where. All flights and entry points will be SLAMMED shut till we understand WTF is out there. We had ZERO cases domestically, ALL were imported and spread here later.

          Yes us and parents have all directives in order...

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            #29
            Sorry guys, but the argument is over. CDC dropped all the projections in half today. There is nothing left to debate.

            Did some people die, unfortunately yes. Flus have hot spots every year and yes young people die too. Those hot spots may be exacerbated by unsrestriced travel from and to major metro areas. We have stuffed a lot of people in more cities. The MSM just never told you about every hour before like this.

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              #30
              Originally posted by wd9 View Post
              I feel bad for you Jazz. No one in your life, or at least no one that matters. You're a victim of careful social engineering with cognitive science. We all are.
              Its called being around the block a few times wd9. I have lots of people who matter to me and a lot who have died from all causes include almost 10 to cancer, but I am sure as hell not going to concede my freedoms and my rights for this or anything, nor will I risk my kids economic future for slim evidence.

              I am not sure how you grew up wd9, but my family has been down in the pits many times and we don't cower from anything and all the older people in my family would say the same.
              Last edited by jazz; Apr 6, 2020, 11:57.

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                #31
                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                Its called being around the block a few times wd9. I have lots of people who matter to me and a lot who have died from all causes include almost 10 to cancer, but I am sure as hell not going to concede my freedoms and my rights for this or anything, nor will I risk my kids economic future for slim evidence.
                What government would intentionally destroy it's county's economy and citizen's wellbeing for nothing?

                Ah, post #77 in thread; "Canadian economic restart task force"?

                I don't think you're completely wrong either, but....

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
                  What government would intentionally destroy it's county's economy and citizen's wellbeing for nothing?

                  Ah, post #77 in thread; "Canadian economic restart task force"?

                  I don't think you're completely wrong either, but....
                  You can bring an economy back. Dead people not.

                  That is the only thing you are missing Jazz. Any sort of compassion for preventable deaths. It comes across in all your posts that you just don't care who or how many die that all you care about is your bank account - which if i recall all your posts about farming wasn't that great anyway.

                  It's a really simple plan, slow the spread to not overwhelm the hospital system. Maybe it is just too simple for some to grasp.

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                    #33
                    Some may find this interesting..

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                      #34
                      From this ....
                      https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

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                        #35
                        More charts, sorry but deaths of pneumonia way down, WHY, perhaps added to Corona...????Click image for larger version

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                          #36
                          Very suspicious, pneumonia⬇️ Corona ⬆️

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