More Garbage Models

[jazz]

Now back to the salt mines you lazy bastards. This rich white dude wants his vacations back.

That kind of extremist rhetoric is the reason we are in this situation to begin with. Life and death decisions are made all the time. I know that offends you, but its reality. If we don't restart this beast by May 1 the human toll will be insurmountable. The unemployment, structural, the dependency, generational.

Already all the young people who are barely getting going in life are ready to throw in the towel and beg for UBI. There are already anecdotal reports of abuse, divorce and suicides rising rapidly. You want an insurrection next?

[farming101]

What's the solution? How long for the quarantine? Until there is no more infections for a 14 day period, in canada? I'm getting to the point that who even cares anymore. Yes the usual group will be calling each other stupid and retards on here to fill in their day over this, but really how on earth do we find a solution to this. Yes paranoia has taken over for sure. How can schools re open in the fall when we are being told that this is only the beginning. Financially there will be a large section of hard working people that are going to throw in the towel forever because they will see no hope of recovery. I dont know, I guess we will find out, but I think that in sask here weren't they talking about a review of the business closures and etc on July 1? If that's the case the devastation will be massive. When people run out of money it might get ugly.

Testing will be key. Rapid results tests are needed.

When restarts begin the questions will be "How will we monitor for new imported cases?" Also, "How will we monitor positive cases and carry out tracing programs?" "Who will we trade with?"

For example, in the last testing results it is seen that Quebec had a positive result discovery rate over 24 times higher than Saskatchewan. So, how are they going to get the Canadian economy going again when some jurisdictions are finding positive for the virus wherever they look? They haven't quantified the extent of infection in any way with positives that high.

[Oliver88]

I also find it extremely disappointing that hundreds of thousands haven't died, especially many doctors and nurses taking care of the sick in overloaded hospitals without PPE, that social distancing, lockdown and quarantine made the models of doing NOTHING look "inaccurate".

We all know social distancing doesn't work anyway, just because every country that does it has it under control, and those that didn't or late are out of control, just a coincidence.

There is cures already, vaccines days away and some already working. Thankfully those with Lupus have volunteered to suffer in pain and die from inflammation as they can't get HCQ because of a hunch made public of a working anti-viral. I mean they were sick anyway, just numbers.

Now back to the salt mines you lazy bastards. This rich white dude wants his vacations back.

It sounds like you feel like you have the answers to this topic.
Now what is your proposed solution for the next 18 months?

[the big wheel]

That kind of extremist rhetoric is the reason we are in this situation to begin with. Life and death decisions are made all the time. I know that offends you, but its reality. If we don't restart this beast by May 1 the human toll will be insurmountable. The unemployment, structural, the dependency, generational.

Already all the young people who are barely getting going in life are ready to throw in the towel and beg for UBI. There are already anecdotal reports of abuse, divorce and suicides rising rapidly. You want an insurrection next?

Honest the God Jazz put your money where your money is. Go get yourself infected sit next to your family old and young just asking you isolate for a month record everyday that things are going great save the economy show everyone its not a big deal.

I ll donate to your experiment .

My neighbors wife is a nurse people are not getting tested that should be. there have been way more deaths from this than recorded. People with all the symptoms told to just stay home no test.

Its interesting all the regions with upcoming elections are downplaying the numbers and want us to go out
and forget about this . That's really what your about isn't it Jazz? tried the slip in the election early and that was a flop couldn't even organize that one then now downplaying whats happening blame the feds
well the hell with it go for it tell Moe to let her rip.

[jazz]

Honest the God Jazz put your money where your money is. Go get yourself infected sit next to your family old and young just asking you isolate for a month record everyday that things are going great save the economy show everyone its not a big deal.

Do you know much about the economy beyond your own farm?

Maybe you should learn about it.

Did you mind the rail blockades. Seems to me farmers were pretty pissed when the trains stopped moving and that was only 3 weeks.

[6V53]

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[the big wheel]

Do you know much about the economy beyond your own farm?

Maybe you should learn about it.

Did you mind the rail blockades. Seems to me farmers were pretty pissed when the trains stopped moving and that was only 3 weeks.

Let me know when you have it!!

[jazz]

Let me know when you have it!!

Sure will. Get back to me on the suicide and overdose stats.

You will be following them as closely as covid right?

[Oliver88]

What have we learned from the outbreak of this virus.

1. Don’t trust China.
2. We should quit giving tax$ to the W.H.O.
3. Trudeau, Hajdu, Tam are incompetent.
(Didn’t close borders to import virus, false messages regarding masks, sent our PPE to China.)
4. It isn’t racist or xenophobic to close borders and borders work.
5. The government does tell the RCMP how to enforce the law.(This is contrary to what we heard during the rail blockades.)
6. The majority of the country doesn’t have any savings.
7. Some jurisdictions will be overly eager to unnecessarily take rights away from their citizens. Some areas are talking about shutting down golf courses while people flock to Walmart and airports are open.

[sawfly1]

I thought the sask. Model seems pretty high. Unless they know something we don't.
Unless we put jazz in charge , which would make the high end look good.
Test and trace , test and trace and isolate, that is all we got. And at least here we could
Function if it was good enough
Vaccine, the only answer,
Not that I know much about Vaccines, but desperate times call for desperate measures..
There must be a formula to make them that is 99.9%reliable.
Start making it.skip the animal testing
Get it out there . 100 million doses ready to go by
The time the tests are in.
If it is bad or wrong throw them out., you could
Be 6 months quicker if they are good.

[the big wheel]

Sure will. Get back to me on the suicide and overdose stats.

You will be following them as closely as covid right?

If I was to use your logic those suicides and overdoses would have happenned anyway just like the weak will die from this.
And there will be old people die from the usual things they die from and troubled people die from suicides as there always has been regardless of what’s happenning with the virus. But each little statistic will be used to support each ones side. And that’s another problem testing and reporting are not standard so none of it really means anything.
But doing nothing about a virus that we don’t have all the answers to is ridiculous.
Contrary to trumps earlier statement that it will go away in summer which is stupid they have summer there all year in rhe south and it’s there. It’s not the regular flu that goes away in summer generally speaking. It’s just going to keep going and going until it changes into something else then we ll Back to square one.
Testing a few people is almost useless test everyone and only isolate the infected may be a. Way to get things going again?

The answer is the treatment that works and a vaccine that works. Perhaps as suggested speed up the process take more of an educated risk with that.

[wd9]

There are already anecdotal reports of abuse, divorce and suicides rising rapidly. You want an insurrection next?

Anecdotal, just like the cures and anti-virals you post.

Excellent commercial.

[jazz]

Nobody said anyting about doing nothing, but neither is taking a nuclear bomb to a mosquitio the right approach either.

Do you guys just ingest the daily MSM without engaging your brains? The hosptials are EMPTY. The Unemployment lines and food bank ques are around the blocks now. The pharmacy is lined up.

A vaccine is 18 months away and there could be minute mutations by that time rendering it ineffective by the time it gets here just like regular flue season.

Are you seriously thinking the economy can last 18 months shut down? I got news for you, you wont be selling grains and canola if that happens.

You guys have plainly given up on rational thought.

[agstar77]

There is a grain of truth in your thought. We can start opening up when we have a method of immediate testing for virus and anti-bodies. Physical distancing will be an on and off thing. Personal protective gear for susceptible individuals. Sanitizing and handwashing will stay. No more handshakes for greetings. Gatherings for sports is going to be a hard one. School is another tough one. They will have to open but under what conditions?

[shtferbrains]

There are a few business still operating, Grocery, Drug stores, Liquor,etc.

I think the have to shut down if any staff test.

How many have been in the news for that in this province?

I think I heard 1 or 2