South Dakota

[fjlip]

Well vaccines/measures are not stopping seasonal flu, it's still 21,000 more deaths than Covid today.
Must be contagious in places on planet, if not here or in Oz. Many mutations, some years the chosen vaccine was for the wrong flu. All is risk.

[newguy]

Well vaccines/measures are not stopping seasonal flu, it's still 21,000 more deaths than Covid today.
Must be contagious in places on planet, if not here or in Oz. Many mutations, some years the chosen vaccine was for the wrong flu. All is risk.

could you imagine what this virus would be doing if schools were open.sporting events going on etc.etc.The seasonal flu does have a death rate but with basically zero precautions.

[dmlfarmer]

One of the states not locking down. Over 200 cases in Smithfields hog processing plant in South Dakota. It produces 5 % of pork in U.S. This could get really ugly. Third plant to shut down.

Back to original post. This is really troubling, and not only because of mass infections of people working at the plant. More importantly, 5% of the pork is no longer being processed and flowing into the retail market so there is the potential for shortages and price increases. Not that this will ever flow back to primary pork producers because they just lost 5% of their market for a minimum of the next 2 weeks likely meaning additional costs for farms and lower prices.

Many on this forum demand less imports of goods and to bring the jobs back to this country. But when companies have consolidated to the point that the closure of a single plant can cut 5% of the supply, is scenario any better? Consolidation of industry and corporate vertical integration has occurred for the same economic reasons that companies have offshored production and creates as much if not more supply problems than off shore production when black swan events occur.

[DaneG]

Don’t forget Africa swine fever it has dropped off of the media radar if it makes it’s way to N/A a lot of the kill capacity won’t be needed at least for a while. Although with the diminished travel swine fever may be kept at bay.

[jimmy]

Guess I’m a simpleton , but does it really matter we’re covid19 sits on the scale of previous pandemics, people are dying that could be prevented, wether it’s worse than flu or not doesn’t matter jack shit either flu can be prevented with vaccine to a degree cv19 can’t.

People are dyin* and there are measures to stem the tide.

Also wonder what is the tipping point when something is not deemed a hoax anymore, I find it quite insulting to those who have died, the front line paramedics and icu nurses and doctors that anyone can even mention the hoax word.

Selfish ignorant people that should go spend time in Italy or New York

Have you got some links to all these front line workers dying? I have family that work on the so called front line and they are curious to where these deaths are taking place.

[15444]

Have you got some links to all these front line workers dying? I have family that work on the so called front line and they are curious to where these deaths are taking place.

Two stats I heard were 100 dead doctors (docs/not nurses) in Italy, and 400 infected nurses in Ontario.

[sumdumguy]

Its contagious, for sure, but in Saskatchewan we only have 300 confirmed cases and 4 have passed away. Nothing like the flu for which we have a vaccine, supposedly. Sorta looks like we dodged the bullet so far 👍 I think the government will kick us all outta our houses starting last week in April.

[the big wheel]

South Dakota mayor now asking for local lockdown as infections doubling every 4 days and not slowing down. As he said not a curve it’s going straight up. 400 cases associated with the hog plant now.

[chuckChuck]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/south-dakotas-governor-resisted-ordering-people-to-stay-home-now-it-has-one-of-the-nations-largest-coronavirus-hot-spots/2020/04/13/5cff90fe-7daf-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/south-dakotas-governor-resisted-ordering-people-to-stay-home-now-it-has-one-of-the-nations-largest-coronavirus-hot-spots/2020/04/13/5cff90fe-7daf-11ea-a3ee-13e1ae0a3571_story.html

South Dakota’s governor resisted ordering people to stay home. Now it has one of the nation’s largest coronavirus hot spots.

By
Griff Witte
April 13, 2020 at 6:06 p.m. CST

As governors across the country fell into line in recent weeks, South Dakota’s top elected leader stood firm: There would be no statewide order to stay home.

Such edicts to combat the spread of the novel coronavirus, Gov. Kristi L. Noem said disparagingly, reflected a “herd mentality.” It was up to individuals — not government — to decide whether “to exercise their right to work, to worship and to play. Or to even stay at home.”

And besides, the first-term Republican told reporters at a briefing this month, “South Dakota is not New York City.”

But now South Dakota is home to one of the largest single coronavirus clusters anywhere in the United States, with more than 300 workers at a giant *pork-processing plant falling ill. With the case numbers continuing to spike, the company was forced to announce the indefinite closure of the facility Sunday, threatening the U.S. food supply.

“A shelter-in-place order is needed now. It is needed today,” said Sioux Falls Mayor Paul TenHaken, whose city is at the center of South Dakota’s outbreak and who has had to improvise with voluntary recommendations in the absence of statewide action.

But the governor continued to resist. Instead, she used a media briefing Monday to announce trials of a drug that President Trump has repeatedly touted as a potential breakthrough in the fight against the coronavirus, despite a lack of scientific evidence.


“It’s an exciting day,” she boasted, repeatedly citing her conversations with presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner.

The piecemeal approach to combating the coronavirus in South Dakota offers a throwback to America’s not-so-distant past, the period around a month ago when governors were still leery of using their powers to shut down restaurants and bars or to order people, for the greater good, to stay at home.

It also may offer a glimpse of the country’s near-term future, as pressure builds — not least from the president — to reopen after a weeks-long shutdown. Trump has been eager to get the economy on its feet again by the beginning of May after record rises in unemployment claims and dramatic falls in the stock market.

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[macdon02]

Sounds like USDA is going to buy $1 billion of pork for food banks. If some of the programs of old start breathing, there's going to bee resurgence of livestock producers. Not sure how you "walk out" the grain on a 50k acre operation but we might find out. Think 1960s. 4 bushel quota anyone?