Well it’s started here in oz

[Oliver88]

And if they can sue In these cases aren’t all governments liable since it’s evident now that about Jan 3 Canada and USA were aware there was a problem?

Our military warned the Trudeau government but it was racist and xenophobic to close borders or stop flights. Provincial and local governments weren’t privileged to that information so interesting to see if there are lawsuits.

[farmaholic]

I dont know why I am always defending supply management here?? But it's not the Dairy farmers that are wanting to dump their milk. Their is a lack of processing capacity because the usage has changed mainly because of the closing of restaurants. Would it be better for the processor to take it and then they dump it?

Compare it to a grain farmer taking perfectly good grain and dumping it into a slough or creek. It hardly makes sense to me either. Giving it away would be better than dumping, processing existed for all the milk in the first place. I understand where the demand dried up but I bet no one has stopped eating yet. Food banks are in need.

[Horse]

I dont know why I am always defending supply management here?? But it's not the Dairy farmers that are wanting to dump their milk. Their is a lack of processing capacity because the usage has changed mainly because of the closing of restaurants. Would it be better for the processor to take it and then they dump it?

If what you say ha to has merit,then why is milk still limited in store my grandson has to go daily for milk which puts him and his family at more risk from exposure to covid . From what I understand is if they ship they have to be paid the regulated rate,so they have to dump instead of giving a break on price (they are protecting their price) but in a time of crisis why cant they relax the restrictions put on by the marketing boards.

[farming101]

If what you say ha to has merit,then why is milk still limited in store my grandson has to go daily for milk which puts him and his family at more risk from exposure to covid . From what I understand is if they ship they have to be paid the regulated rate,so they have to dump instead of giving a break on price (they are protecting their price) but in a time of crisis why cant they relax the restrictions put on by the marketing boards.

Quite possibly no one thought of it or there is no straightforward way to do it.

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[fjlip]

OUR laws/supply management, the farmer can not sell or give it away directly to a consumer...

[WiltonRanch]

First time I’ve ever saw it local Safeway was stuck with a bunch of milk with limited shelf life like 2 days. Dropped the price to $1 a gallon. Many flapper pies were made and consumed in our respective households. Supply chain must’ve been off kilter cause this stuff was April 8 and next batch was April 24.

[GDR]

If what you say ha to has merit,then why is milk still limited in store my grandson has to go daily for milk which puts him and his family at more risk from exposure to covid . From what I understand is if they ship they have to be paid the regulated rate,so they have to dump instead of giving a break on price (they are protecting their price) but in a time of crisis why cant they relax the restrictions put on by the marketing boards.

I agree it is wasteful, and also think the limits at the store are frustrating, and agree the more trips to the store put more people in danger. But that does not change the issue they are dealing with. Fluid milk needs to be pasteurized, separated and bottled to be sold, if the plants are working to capacity, what more can they do?

Farmaholic, it's not the same as a farmer dumping grain, not even close. Unpasteurized milk has a shelf life of a couple days, if you want a comparison to grain, maybe done 30% moisture grain in the wet bin in 28 degree August weather and your dryer is broken, that might be close.

Agree it would be great to supply the food banks, but again needs to be pasteurized and bottled, cant just dump 30,000 litres from a milk truck in the warehouse.

And for those who say it doesn't need pasturizing, maybe not but it's the law, and between short shelf life and upset stomachs not used to it, would be a disaster. (I grew up on unpasteurized milk)

Bottom line, dont blame the farmer, they are your peers, no different than when the media talks about price spikes in bread or meat, is that your fault?

[bucket]

Compare it to a grain farmer taking perfectly good grain and dumping it into a slough or creek. It hardly makes sense to me either. Giving it away would be better than dumping, processing existed for all the milk in the first place. I understand where the demand dried up but I bet no one has stopped eating yet. Food banks are in need.

Grain farmers are not subsidized or protected like dairy farmers...

I would have no problem with some getting the subsidies in this time if they were making an effort to help others....

The dairy subsidy and the CERB all come from the same pocket....at least keep the people fed...

Eggs being destroyed....fields of vegetables worked under....milk dumped....these are industries protected or helped with government involvement....and yet have zero obligation to help...

If they are dumping milk does it really have to cost 6 bucks for 4 liters??????

[farming101]

I dont know why I am always defending supply management here?? But it's not the Dairy farmers that are wanting to dump their milk. Their is a lack of processing capacity because the usage has changed mainly because of the closing of restaurants. Would it be better for the processor to take it and then they dump it?

Thank you GDR for your comments that are very informative.
Could you comment on the sentence above that I have bolded? Why is there a lack of capacity when prior to the restrictions I would think all the milk was being processed?
Why has the restaurant closing problem impacted the ability to process milk? Is it a distribution issue? Incompatible containers? Just trying to understand.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Thank you GDR for your comments that are very informative.
Could you comment on the sentence above that I have bolded? Why is there a lack of capacity when prior to the restrictions I would think all the milk was being processed?
Why has the restaurant closing problem impacted the ability to process milk? Is it a distribution issue? Incompatible containers? Just trying to understand.

Not certain in this case, but with toilet paper, and vegetables etc. it is that many processors are set up to cater strictly to the commercial/restaurant/wholesale business. Not set up or even approved for the retail market, takes time to switch over production lines, and get all the appropriate approvals.

Supposedly that was the entire shortage of toilet paper, the fact that everyone who used to spend 40+ hours per week at work, plus at restaurants, gyms, malls etc, suddenly started doing their business at home instead, and needing to buy much more TP. while the industrial grade sand paper stuff was unused.