Ag Stab A waste of Time and paper and employees.

[Braveheart]

You can blame Yery or the Tooth Fairy but the real villain in less farm support money is the Treasury Dept. They give Ag a block of money and say that's it. Divide it up as you see fit. So Ag cuts programs, lowers reference margins etc to put the puzzle together.

[AllisWD45]

Here will be a typical question in future years about spring 2020.

1. Why is your diesel price so much lower than our projected expenses for 2020.

2. Why are your expenses so much less for 2019.

Ah, diesel was half price and when the crop is out and it's over 1/3 you don't spend lots.

Claimed Denied.

So true. Many years ago to be exact BSE years when i was in the purebred cattle business I applied. I had several calls from them as to why for the size of my cowherd I had 60 bulls on hand and most herds that size had about 5. Finally after i thought i had convinced the lady that was my sales inventory and that was the business i was in my claim was denied anyway. Dropped out after that couldn't handle that kind of stupid anymore

[farming101]

Is the application as "in depth" for AgInvest as it is for AgStab?
Probably not as much "reconciling" in AgInvest than the forensic AgStab application audit.

That is probably where SF3 is running into problems, things need to jive( within 10% ) from one year to the next.

I suggest hiring wiseguy as your representative.

Same application, but with the objective of establishing the amount for AgriInvest purposes.
If you ever want to get back in to Agristability (and personally I wouldn't) all your inventory numbers are on record.

[tweety]

You guys sound more socialist then Chuckie. What ever happened to that strong independent right wing capitalist farmer?

Farm subsidies won't solve anything but raise costs and increase risk. 10 dollars of subsidy raises costs by 100. Everyone wants your "handout".

[farmaholic]

I know it's the shits, but don't carry crop insurance, so in the case of a complete disaster there might be something there.

As far as I'm concerned, all AgStab is is a barometer program to measure the average financial health of the primary Ag Producers enrolled, I wonder if the cross- section of enrolled participants is truly representative of all farms as a whole.
And yup, a good make work project.

There was an article in the April 2020 of Agriview stating how much money has been paid out in the 2017 year through AgriStability......why highlight 2017? That was 4 years ago!

[FarmJunkie]

First it’s just a job creation scam. More of the money goes to the dummies denying your claim than goes out to the ones who might need it. With that the government has just created more minions to vote for them. We are a society of created losers thanks to the government

[Guest]

When george w bush was signing a farm bill years ago, he was being questioned on it and he said if I give a farmer 5 dollars he spends 10 in town. Immediate economic stimulus. I just cant understand how our government doesnt see how economically important all of our ag industry is. Every ag program they have come up with in the last 25 years or more are nothing more than government job creation.

Its real simple , this asshole hates the west and hates ag even more

[bucket]

You guys sound more socialist then Chuckie. What ever happened to that strong independent right wing capitalist farmer?

Farm subsidies won't solve anything but raise costs and increase risk. 10 dollars of subsidy raises costs by 100. Everyone wants your "handout".

Capitalists in every industry have become socialists....you maybe haven't noticed the 100s of billions handed to capitalists lately?

[LEP]

I know it's the shits, but don't carry crop insurance, so in the case of a complete disaster there might be something there.

As far as I'm concerned, all AgStab is is a barometer program to measure the average financial health of the primary Ag Producers enrolled, I wonder if the cross- section of enrolled participants is truly representative of all farms as a whole.
And yup, a good make work project.

There was an article in the April 2020 of Agriview stating how much money has been paid out in the 2017 year through AgriStability......why highlight 2017? That was 4 years ago!

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Why highlight 2017? It's because they haven't finished the 2018 year yet.

[farmaholic]

I haven't had a problem with them, but I haven't collected since the frost of 2004....then in 2005 they asked for some back! LMFAO. Since then never been in a claims position and year to year numbers( inventory, A/R, prepaids, etc) must fall within "their" margin of error. Anyone ever question their commodity valuations? The COB(calculation of benefits) you receive is kinda a macro view of the calculations of your application, I think there is a micro view of the calculations that account for the commodity values they are using to value your inventory and the changes in value of carried forward inventory, etc.

Fun fun fun.....

[SASKFARMER]

Yo tweety this is what we’re playing against.

Trudeau can piss away billions on foreign gov and do nothing for farmers that have to compete against the USA treasury.

You really have to be special not to figure what makes going on.

Let’s make Canadian farms poorer.

[tweety]

Capitalists in every industry have become socialists....you maybe haven't noticed the 100s of billions handed to capitalists lately?

It won't help, too many hands in the pot unlike oil companies etc. You pay to give all your data to every supplier, and to those that don't get it directly pay other companies like John Deere, Climate, CNH, Decisive, Echelon (you know, those "helpful" companies you pay to grow you more grain because you're a progressive farmer that embraces technology) to get it.

They know more about your farm then you do. So when your handout arrives, together they take it and much more.

Ever think the solution is closer to home then a government handout?