Quarantine the vulnerable.

[Bowerpower]

Can’t we just quarantine the vulnerable and let the rest do society get on with life. Put in safety protocols in high risk areas (nursing homes, seniors living centres, etc) and people with underlying health issues well that’s up to you to get healthier and or wear masks and sanitize properly. We can’t just shut all of the economy for this. 6 deaths in mb..... to think we can stamp this virus out is impossible. At some point we go back to regular life and when covid pops back up the vulnerable need to stay home. Not everyone else

[sumdumguy]

Can’t we just quarantine the vulnerable and let the rest do society get on with life. Put in safety protocols in high risk areas (nursing homes, seniors living centres, etc) and people with underlying health issues well that’s up to you to get healthier and or wear masks and sanitize properly. We can’t just shut all of the economy for this. 6 deaths in mb..... to think we can stamp this virus out is impossible. At some point we go back to regular life and when covid pops back up the vulnerable need to stay home. Not everyone else

Only 4 in Saskatchewan

[FarmJunkie]

We’ve delayed the inevitable in my infinite wisdom. We need to test for antibodies to get things going. Seems like our clueless leaders either want this to continue and are hiding something they can’t tell us or the tests that are out there aren’t reliable. Seems stupid not to just figure who’s got it and who’s over it. Tired of this stupid conversation already. We need real leaders with brains and balls not political games and scare tactics.

[dmlfarmer]

[QUOTE=Bowerpower;450719]Can’t we just quarantine the vulnerable and let the rest do society get on with life. Put in safety protocols in high risk areas (nursing homes, seniors living centres, etc) and people with underlying health issues well that’s up to you to get healthier and or wear masks and sanitize properly. We can’t just shut all of the economy for this. 6 deaths in mb..... to think we can stamp this virus out is impossible. At some point we go back to regular life and when covid pops back up the vulnerable need to stay home. Not everyone else[/QUOTE

Trouble with a simple solution is in the details. Tell me, if the answer is to quarantine vulnerable, how do you care for those quarantined. How do you staff the hospitals, nursing homes, lodges, home care without quanteenining all workers at these facilities too? And how does your solution prevent transmission at meat packing plants which is now a huge problem for farmers and ranchers.

[bucket]

We’ve delayed the inevitable in my infinite wisdom. We need to test for antibodies to get things going. Seems like our clueless leaders either want this to continue and are hiding something they can’t tell us or the tests that are out there aren’t reliable. Seems stupid not to just figure who’s got it and who’s over it. Tired of this stupid conversation already. We need real leaders with brains and balls not political games and scare tactics.

I was told long ago the easiest way to get things done ....is to scare the boss ...use the unthinkable to scare him into what you want done is what I was told....and it worked...

Same blueprint is being used here ...scaring the population into falling into line????

[bucket]

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Can’t we just quarantine the vulnerable and let the rest do society get on with life. Put in safety protocols in high risk areas (nursing homes, seniors living centres, etc) and people with underlying health issues well that’s up to you to get healthier and or wear masks and sanitize properly. We can’t just shut all of the economy for this. 6 deaths in mb..... to think we can stamp this virus out is impossible. At some point we go back to regular life and when covid pops back up the vulnerable need to stay home. Not everyone else[/QUOTE

Trouble with a simple solution is in the details. Tell me, if the answer is to quarantine vulnerable, how do you care for those quarantined. How do you staff the hospitals, nursing homes, lodges, home care without quanteenining all workers at these facilities too? And how does your solution prevent transmission at meat packing plants which is now a huge problem for farmers and ranchers.

There are millions of healthy people that are doing SFA and being paid ....clean up the plant and get a new shift into the slaughterhouses ...

There are plenty of countries that are using laid off or furloughed employees in agriculture .....not in Canada...we need the specialized garden planters from other countries...

[Ache4Acres]

Why is there transmission risk at meat packing plants anyway?

Seems odd to me. I see Brandt has been full tilt with 500 people manufacturing a day and Everaz has been full tilt. I’ve never been in a meat plant but why are they so susceptible?

Put on masks and improve hygiene I am sure they are fine too.

[wmoebis]

Why is there transmission risk at meat packing plants anyway?

Seems odd to me. I see Brandt has been full tilt with 500 people manufacturing a day and Everaz has been full tilt. I’ve never been in a meat plant but why are they so susceptible?

Put on masks and improve hygiene I am sure they are fine too.

All the live breeding and grower facilities (chickens, pigs etc) are bio secure, once they hit the kill floor and become food is it the same?

[newguy]

Even healthy people may need hospital care to survive.We have had lots of hospital space so far.Open things up too early and hospitals may have trouble giving many the medical care needed to beat the virus.Think right off the get go it was all about flattening the curve.Thanks to everone it has worked.Kind of thought it was common sense.but then again I thought it was common sense that some disinfectants are not to be injected into your body.

[macdon02]

Why is there transmission risk at meat packing plants anyway?

Seems odd to me. I see Brandt has been full tilt with 500 people manufacturing a day and Everaz has been full tilt. I’ve never been in a meat plant but why are they so susceptible?

Put on masks and improve hygiene I am sure they are fine too.

Take 12 guys that live in the same apartment, then travel together in the same vehicle, to the same job, share the same lunch room. It'll happen eventually. I couldn't get my head around it either till i realized the culture of those that work in the plants is not the same as mine. The plants change the primary language of the town's and cities they are built in after they are built. It's quite the disruption pre and post build. Googling demographics of Garden City, Kansas is interesting

[dmlfarmer]

Take 12 guys that live in the same apartment, then travel together in the same vehicle, to the same job, share the same lunch room. It'll happen eventually. I couldn't get my head around it either till i realized the culture of those that work in the plants is not the same as mine. The plants change the primary language of the town's and cities they are built in after they are built. It's quite the disruption pre and post build. Googling demographics of Garden City, Kansas is interesting

Your right macdon. And why are they working there.... because Canadians refuse this type of work. You want a commercial meat industry then this is what you get. Mom and Pop butchershops will not handle the production of modern ranches. It was as much Canadians not wanting a career of cutting meat and high cost, low margin of local butcher shops as it was government regulations that have put the local butchershop out of business.

So to buckets claim there are millions of Canadians to do the work in the packing plants, where were they before immigrants were brought in to do this work. And why do you think that they are willing to do this work now, especially given the higher risk of contracting Covid at such plants? Here's an idea, maybe all the families/relatives of ranchers hurt by Covid and needing work should be the first ones to step up and man the cutting line. There is a win/win. Ranchers manning the processing industry. I am sure Cargill/JBS would welcome hard working farm families that know the industry from the ground level as employees.

[bucket]

Your right macdon. And why are they working there.... because Canadians refuse this type of work. You want a commercial meat industry then this is what you get. Mom and Pop butchershops will not handle the production of modern ranches. It was as much Canadians not wanting a career of cutting meat and high cost, low margin of local butcher shops as it was government regulations that have put the local butchershop out of business.

So to buckets claim there are millions of Canadians to do the work in the packing plants, where were they before immigrants were brought in to do this work. And why do you think that they are willing to do this work now, especially given the higher risk of contracting Covid at such plants? Here's an idea, maybe all the families/relatives of ranchers hurt by Covid and needing work should be the first ones to step up and man the cutting line. There is a win/win. Ranchers manning the processing industry. I am sure Cargill/JBS would welcome hard working farm families that know the industry from the ground level as employees.

And then send who to mind the ranches.....Cargill and JBS??????

The problem here has been identified. ....government handouts to large companies like Cargill and JBS to build larger facilities and pUT the smaller ones out of business...

Then one guy catches a cough and everyone else has a flu....brilliant.....and the bureaucrats that promote this are long retired .....right Yerry????...

FCC has a policy to promote larger farms .....everyone has had a look into the future with what is happening now. ...larger ...bigger ....better.....at what cost?