Why.....in this day and age?

[farmaholic]

Vertical tillage tools..... across whole fields a section, and half section pieces ....peas and lentil stubble....WHY?

Gutta keep da boise un da Culuny bizee! Udderwize all dey wanna do is look at porn and smoke.

If that was my land rented to people who did this....it would be OVER!









Drove through some that was near zero visibility!

And what's with all the floating on "smart" nitrogen. Rutting stuff up. $100 per tonne more than straight urea.
Yup, Ag needs a hand-out.

Problem with these two operations is some guys went out and bought $175K vertical tillage tools and $350K spreaders...gotta use-em boys!!!! Too expensive to sit in the shed or beside the hedge-row!!!! The rest of the lemmings will rent one to spread the smart N on with! If the tripley well heeled BTOs are doing it gotta keep up with the Jones....

What ever happened to minimal till and putting all the fertilizer in the ground? Sometimes it's ok not yo be in the "in crowd".
This is probably one of those times.

I can imagine the stark difference in conditions some of you are dealing with, but in the drier south, hasn't some people learned anything?

[farmaholic]

I apologize for picture orientation in that last post, I'm not going to try and fix it.

[Guest]

Yea i dont get those machines either
And here in the swamp they are packing wet ground to much
Big power heavy on the fuel , i dont understand ?
Will be lots for sale soon

[bucket]

Ruts and fireguards....quick to repair and control fires...

I always try to have 80 feet .....for protection of wind....

Today we looked at some flax straw and it's been three days since they burnt it....still some smoldering...

80 plus kmh winds can make a guy nervous up against a pasture...

[bobofthenorth]

Tell them its just a tandem disk and watch the smoke come out their ears. After they've paid the big bux they really hate to hear them called a tandem disk. Don Rennie is rolling over in his grave - all that zero till progress and then came vertical tillage.

[biglentil]

I'm sure they would tell you it's the winds fault.

[dmlfarmer]

I apologize for picture orientation in that last post, I'm not going to try and fix it.

Thought maybe photo was from dash board cam and taken when truck rolled because you could no longer see road in the dust and hit the ditch. And you are going to write off your truck instead of trying to fix it.

[woodland]

I think one would be great for chopping up our corn stalks, busting out sod, and incorporating manure in our heavy clay. Totally different situations than most guys deal with though. I’m too poor so instead it’s either the heavy breaking disk or the beat up finishing disk.

They sure seem to hold their value so far ................ must be the “cool” factor.

[WiltonRanch]

A lot of this vertical tillage equipment was pushed on us by manufacturers who wanted to expand markets beyond corn country. They convinced guys they needed them, good marketing. I will give the machines credit in high residue management, not a common problem in a good chunk of western Canada. My neighbour whom I consider to be a great farmer has a fancy disk machine. His rule is if the heavy harrow can’t hack it, in goes the disk. It doesn’t get overused and he grows lots of straw.

[highwayman]

Use our protill to manage residue and work sloughs, water runs and strip edges and such. Makes seeding an easier operation. Never had the need to work corner to corner but it has been a very useful tool.

[farmaholic]

Use our protill to manage residue and work sloughs, water runs and strip edges and such. Makes seeding an easier operation. Never had the need to work corner to corner but it has been a very useful tool.

They have their place and uses, but whole large fields of lentil or pea stubble? Why? I don't think there was 18 inches of pulse vines pasted to the ground that the drill couldn't seed through.

[biglentil]

They have their place and uses, but whole large fields of lentil or pea stubble? Why? I don't think there was 18 inches of pulse vines pasted to the ground that the drill couldn't seed through.

The colony is getting hammered with near zero visibility right now. Light powderized pea stubble due west.

[Quadtrack]

Soil erosion is one of the worst to witness for a farmer. As you say, so unnecessary to til up whole fields like that.
Spreading fertilizer is another unbelievable practice that some insist on doing. All the research has proven it is less effective. By a lot. One farm near me bought a used floater several years ago, they can’t figure out why their crops are 1/2 or 2/3 the rest in the area. Yet they keep using it. It’s fast and easy.
Good grief.

[highwayman]

Agree that vertical tillage needs to be used with discretion. We have never experienced any wind erosion or otherwise with the proper approach. Can’t speak to what your seeing with you neighbor but don’t blame the implement.

[farmaholic]

The colony is getting hammered with near zero visibility right now. Light powderized pea stubble due west.

What would really bother me is if it was only mine that was drifting....and it was something I did that caused it.
We have some prone land in the Ghetto too....but we try not to do anything to it that makes it more susceptible to wind or water erosion.

Ya I know there can get to be an onerous amount of trash on the soil surface after successive years of good crops that lends itself to other problems......stays too wet, disease harboring, small seeded crop emergence, etc.
But when picking your battle....timing is everything.