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    #16
    Pandemics have been around for centuries of human civilization, probably longer.
    I think we just got better at managing them and treating the infected.
    But maybe new ones are coming at us more often and we are better equipped to handle them....until the doozie comes along and blind sides us!

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      #17
      They say it can stay in the air for months on polluted air lol
      If that’s the case China and India will be wiped out completely in a year .

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        #18
        Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
        Thank the U.S. and Canada for keeping flights coming from overseas way way to long , from China and Italy . We got it bad here in North America in general because flights were coming in from hotspots from each direction.
        New Zealand 🇳🇿 did it right .
        U.S. did not want to shut the air industry down
        Canada did not want to offend anyone... 👎
        Thus there is a shit show in North America in general .
        Look at Saskatchewan numbers , biggest numbers ... in Stoon area .... busiest airport .. numbers speak for themselves there .
        The govt treats livestock Disease better than they do humans. Every country shuts do trade when an outbreak occurs in livestock. Look at swine flue

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          #19
          Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
          Flattening the curve may only marginally reduce total number of deaths over a steep infection curve. Health care may be able to save afew more lives teetering on deaths doorstep but the most vulnerable will probably perish regardless of where on the curve or which curve they contract it on.

          Just because we hide away from other people doesn't make us immune" either!
          By flattening the curve hospitals are able to give 100% health care.new treatments coming out daily so the longer we had off getting in the better it can be treated.Would you want to be the one in a hospital to choose the sick people to be treated cause not enough room for everyone?

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            #20
            Originally posted by newguy View Post
            By flattening the curve hospitals are able to give 100% health care.new treatments coming out daily so the longer we had off getting in the better it can be treated.Would you want to be the one in a hospital to choose the sick people to be treated cause not enough room for everyone?
            100% health care to a single condition? Do you know what you are saying? That means thousands of people with other conditions went undiagnosed and untreated. Its a year to see a specialist now and blood work has been halted.

            No hospitals in NA were overrun. But keeping beds open for patients that never materialized certainly broke the doctors code of do no harm. Our physician politicians eggheads have done irreparable harm to our overall health and well being including our means of supporting ourselves.

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              #21
              Originally posted by newguy View Post
              By flattening the curve hospitals are able to give 100% health care.new treatments coming out daily so the longer we had off getting in the better it can be treated.Would you want to be the one in a hospital to choose the sick people to be treated cause not enough room for everyone?
              Umm, the reality was actually worse than that - the top docs chose a course of action that refused medical treatment for people with known health threats in order to accommodate for those who were not sick, based highly inaccurate modelling.

              Inaccurate modelling - mann, where have we seen this play out before?

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                #22
                Once the restrictions are lifted, the backlog in non-Covid medical procedures will be enormous. Yet almost no one in authority ever mentions that.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Austrian Economics View Post
                  Once the restrictions are lifted, the backlog in non-Covid medical procedures will be enormous. Yet almost no one in authority ever mentions that.
                  How come we aren't finding sick and dead homeless people, ANYWHERE. It's so contagious but not to that segment of the population? How can Americans have 30-35% of worldwide deaths? Pakistan, India and China have billions of people, never mind Indonesia and others living in tight quarters and next to nothing? You tell me its not political. People are being pounded with bad news and death counts constantly and now being paid to stay home. Trudeau will implement a living wage because of this next. If you don't want to work you won't have too. To me it seems we are on the road to socialism with no way to turn it around. The indoctrination in the school system and the left wing brainwashing is now coming to a head maybe.

                  Its hard to give a shit anymore, especially when they start on immediate gun bans, like is there nothing else going on right now, this is what Trudeau is going for?

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                    #24
                    Not true, Jazz. It only takes a phone call to the hospital lab, here, and they will do your routine scheduled blood test.

                    Also, a friend who has chemo treatments, six in total, hasn't had one cancelled yet, in Regina.

                    Really don't know where you come up with ideas, but you could tell Pense that wearing a mask, unless he puts it on upside down, will not interfere with looking a person in the eyes.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      100% health care to a single condition? Do you know what you are saying? That means thousands of people with other conditions went undiagnosed and untreated. Its a year to see a specialist now and blood work has been halted.

                      No hospitals in NA were overrun. But keeping beds open for patients that never materialized certainly broke the doctors code of do no harm. Our physician politicians eggheads have done irreparable harm to our overall health and well being including our means of supporting ourselves.
                      CBC today ran with the story of people DYING because of postponed treatment? Must be true.
                      4-10 in Sk hospitals at any time, really over run aren't they, probably BORED waiting.

                      Still 98.6 % NEGATIVE but never hear WTF were those sick with if they had symptoms that warranted testing. 98% of the 1.4% are mild also. That leaves about the 4-10in hospitals. Oh ya 1000 icu capacity...

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                        #26
                        Cancer surgery etc started again I think Wednesday here on a case by case basis. Our state I mean.

                        Hip replacements etc still on hold

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                          #27
                          Local young woman 5 months pregnant went to hospital in a bigger town as directed to have her ultrasound, found it empty. No one in waiting room. Not one person. Receptionist said, yes, it's eerily quiet.

                          Turns out that this entire mid-sized town hospital is dedicated to treating Chinese Flu patients. Thanks for not telling her this, right?

                          So in our greater health unit catchment area, there have been a very limited number of deaths attributed to the Wu Flu.

                          And yesterday, it was reported that there have been 35 known deaths due to delayed medical procedures, far more than the deaths attributed to the Chinese flu.

                          And that's just within a 40 or 50 mile radius of some major area hospitals.

                          What is this shutdown really about?

                          Watch the video clip that Pars posted for your answer:

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by checking View Post
                            Not true, Jazz. It only takes a phone call to the hospital lab, here, and they will do your routine scheduled blood test
                            Both my mother in law and wife were due for yearly physicals early this month. They had a phone consult with the doctor who gave the requisitions but told us that labs not taking anyone yet. Maybe that's changed now.

                            My dad was scheduled to see a specialist this month, postponed to who knows when.

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