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    #21
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Why not provide tax breaks, incentives, subsidies for food processing, manufacturing, high tech to attract investment?

    In Alberta if the tar sands lose money and become uneconomic Kenney suggests a state owned oil company to take over some projects? Huh? In free market Alberta?

    Norway did that many decades ago and now have over 1 trillion in savings. Surely Alberta should have more to show for all their years of high GDP and high incomes than what they have now.

    If Alberta had a modest provincial taxation system like Saskatchewan prior to the covid crisis they would have a $14 Billion dollar budget surplus! Wow and you guys keep defending this mismanagement and blaming Ottawa?

    Yep Alberta is in trouble and some of the blame is on them.
    So I am curious Chuck, do you have a reading comprehension problem or in typical Liberal fashion are you refusing to actually address the questions I asked?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Goodtime View Post
      When does Alberta get to stop sending equalization payments?
      Sask and Manitoba also , but I doubt that will happen.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        So I am curious Chuck, do you have a reading comprehension problem or in typical Liberal fashion are you refusing to actually address the questions I asked?
        You went off script and asked a question that wasn't in the book. Being incapable of independent thought, He has no answer.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
          So I am curious Chuck, do you have a reading comprehension problem or in typical Liberal fashion are you refusing to actually address the questions I asked?
          I've watched politicians respond to questions asked by the media for decades.

          Some were exceptional and answered directly to the question asked of them.

          I don't think the current PM has ever answered a question with a direct answer.

          When he got into trouble with the firing of Jodie Wilson Raybould, his answer was extremely repetitive and deflective during question period, coach Butts probably rewarded him accordingly.

          Three pocket Justin has the CBC, CTV, and the RCMP in his pockets so he doesn't even have to answer the really tough questions that should be asked of him on a daily basis.

          It should be against the law for any government involvement in media, you can see Justin's chicom envy showing through by avoiding question period and the house of commons which can be enterpreted as a very one party only regime.

          It's only a matter of time before he starts wearing the Mao black tunic suit.

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            #25
            Originally posted by TASFarms View Post
            Look at raging river resources. Their stock was over $12 a couple years ago. Funds pulled out and went states side. Now they are well under 50 cents . The loss in this country is mind boggling
            Raging river stock was delisted along time ago. Baytex bought them.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
              Simple question for you Chuck, would you be happy with a 25% sales tax? Do you believe more people employed by the government as opposed to private industry is diversification?
              A 25% sales tax? huh? Who is suggesting a 25% sales tax? Saskatchewan has a 6% sales tax. Shocking! 6%! Scott Moe is out of control. LOL

              And who is suggesting more civil servants when a sizable heritage fund and sensible tax policies could have been used to help diversify and stabilize Alberta's economy to reduce the impact of low oil prices.

              If you want to be taken seriously ask reasonable questions and don't exaggerate.

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                #27
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                When is Alberta going to make plans for diversifying their economy? How many times do we need to go through this cycle of boom and bust before industry and governments start investing in developing a resilient economy that is not so dependent on one or 2 export dependent commodities?

                Perhaps they should ask Norway for advice?
                Ok so you think my questions were exaggerated? First you said we need to diversify our economy and perhaps we should ask Norway for advice. So when I looked at Norway's for any information on what Norway was doing business wise lately I found they were working on a new gas pipeline to Poland, installing carbon capture technology on a large cement plant. It looks similar to Canada. One large difference would be government certainly spends far more per capita than Canada with their cradle to grave social programs, hence why I asked if you considered increasing the size of government to be diversification. Personally I believe Alberta should have a sales tax, and I believe all energy royalties should go into savings so that the revenue earned from those savings can be used by future generations but if you want to use Norway as the example to follow you should be ready to accept their levels of taxation or quit using them as the model to follow.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                  Ok so you think my questions were exaggerated? First you said we need to diversify our economy and perhaps we should ask Norway for advice. So when I looked at Norway's for any information on what Norway was doing business wise lately I found they were working on a new gas pipeline to Poland, installing carbon capture technology on a large cement plant. It looks similar to Canada. One large difference would be government certainly spends far more per capita than Canada with their cradle to grave social programs, hence why I asked if you considered increasing the size of government to be diversification. Personally I believe Alberta should have a sales tax, and I believe all energy royalties should go into savings so that the revenue earned from those savings can be used by future generations but if you want to use Norway as the example to follow you should be ready to accept their levels of taxation or quit using them as the model to follow.
                  So Chuck posts constantly about the paradise that is Norway, apparently with no clue as to their tax structure, as he now ridicules the concept of 25% sales tax.

                  And yes, Norway is one of the most heavily taxed countries in the world with a total tax burden of roughly 45% of GDP– almost 4x Hong Kong and nearly twice the US.

                  VAT here is a whopping 25%. Personal income tax rates border 55%. Corporate profits tax ranges from 28% to as high as 78%. Norway even has a direct WEALTH TAX.
                  https://www.sovereignman.com/lifestyle-design/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/ https://www.sovereignman.com/lifestyle-design/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                    Ok so you think my questions were exaggerated? First you said we need to diversify our economy and perhaps we should ask Norway for advice. So when I looked at Norway's for any information on what Norway was doing business wise lately I found they were working on a new gas pipeline to Poland, installing carbon capture technology on a large cement plant. It looks similar to Canada. One large difference would be government certainly spends far more per capita than Canada with their cradle to grave social programs, hence why I asked if you considered increasing the size of government to be diversification. Personally I believe Alberta should have a sales tax, and I believe all energy royalties should go into savings so that the revenue earned from those savings can be used by future generations but if you want to use Norway as the example to follow you should be ready to accept their levels of taxation or quit using them as the model to follow.
                    We are in some agreement. Even with Sask. tax rates Alberta would have been much farther ahead and probably could have saved a lot more for a rainy day. I am not advocating Norway tax rates. But Sask tax rates would be a great start. Higher royalties, a large heritage fund and Albertans would have still had many advantages over the rest of Canada.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      We are in some agreement. Even with Sask. tax rates Alberta would have been much farther ahead and probably could have saved a lot more for a rainy day. I am not advocating Norway tax rates. But Sask tax rates would be a great start. Higher royalties, a large heritage fund and Albertans would have still had many advantages over the rest of Canada.
                      We went through the numbers on here a while ago. If Alberta were a sovereign nation like Norway is, Instead of a province with no control over how equalization revenue is distributed, Alberta could have kept the same competitive tax and royalty rates and still built a fund bigger than Norways.

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