Touchy subject western producer

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Gives alittle insight into all of his comments on here. Twisted to try and prove his myths.

I was looking at this from a different perspective.
Since Canadian agriculture is so insignificant, we should all be going along with that theme. And urging him to move on to more significant players, Where he can entertain a wider audience and have a bigger impact on Saving the world from glyphosate.

Do you speak khazak? I hear that they are always open to new ideas from outsiders with good people skills.

[Guest]

Your statement is, as usual, misleading and inaccurate.

Canadian wheat exports represent 14% of total world trade by volume. There would be a huge gaping hole in wheat supplies world wide if not for Canadian exports.

A nation's production and consumption within its own borders has nothing to do with world trade.

You're right its actually closer to 2.4%. You're referring to a different ratio than I am.

[blackpowder]

Well at least the world's largest wheat producer eats it all and still buys more.
How it's doing that is the rub.

[farming101]

You're right its actually closer to 2.4%. You're referring to a different ratio than I am.

Yes, and your ratio is meaningless

[Guest]

Yes, and your ratio is meaningless

Obviously meaningless to you. So what, it is not however misleading or inaccurate

[farming101]

Obviously meaningless to you. So what, it is not however misleading or inaccurate

It is meaningless to anyone who understands supply and demand statistics and foreign trade data.

Misleading because: Canada is a significant exporter of wheat to the world markets and has been for decades, maybe a century. Canada starting shipping wheat overseas in 1883.
Tell countries in North Africa, Southeast Asia or tell Japan that Canada is no longer going to ship any wheat to them because Bin Lurking says it is insignificant. Go get your wheat from somewhere else.

Inaccurate because: Discussing how much the world produces and then how much it exports need to be dealt with separately. China produces more wheat than any other country and yet imports wheat.
You should tell China to put on another 5 pounds of N and quit buying wheat from Canada. It should be just that simple.

Canada's Export wheat market as a percent of world production:
2017/18 2.88%
2018/19 3.34%
2019/20 3.01%
So, yes you are inaccurate
https://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/ https://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/

[Guest]

It is meaningless to anyone who understands supply and demand statistics and foreign trade data.

Misleading because: Canada is a significant exporter of wheat to the world markets and has been for decades, maybe a century. Canada starting shipping wheat overseas in 1883.
Tell countries in North Africa, Southeast Asia or tell Japan that Canada is no longer going to ship any wheat to them because Bin Lurking says it is insignificant. Go get your wheat from somewhere else.

Inaccurate because: Discussing how much the world produces and then how much it exports need to be dealt with separately. China produces more wheat than any other country and yet imports wheat.
You should tell China to put on another 5 pounds of N and quit buying wheat from Canada. It should be just that simple.

Canada's Export wheat market as a percent of world production:
2017/18 2.88%
2018/19 3.34%
2019/20 3.01%
So, yes you are inaccurate
https://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/ https://www.usda.gov/oce/commodity/wasde/

So if the ratio I quoted is meaningless why did you bother calculating three other years to the second decimal point. I simply took a multiple year average. Funny you're anal about accuracy and yet the link you included for reference is all about estimates. FWIW 2002 was only approx 1.2%, even more insignificant. I respect your opinion on this but I don't agree with it. Don't forget Canada also has been importing approx a half million tonnes these last few years but also leaving roughly the same amount out in the field in those wonderful harvest management sprayer tracks.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

So if the ratio I quoted is meaningless why did you bother calculating three other years to the second decimal point. I simply took a multiple year average. Funny you're anal about accuracy and yet the link you included for reference is all about estimates. FWIW 2002 was only approx 1.2%, even more insignificant. I respect your opinion on this but I don't agree with it.

And that is one highly uninformative screenshot. Except for the time on your phone, why is it in the same time zone as we are, I thought you were in Australia?

[Guest]

And that is one highly uninformative screenshot. Except for the time on your phone, why is it in the same time zone as we are, I thought you were in Australia?

You. Think??

[AlbertaFarmer5]

You. Think??

I give up, What is the take away from the USDA screenshot you posted?

[farming101]

So if the ratio I quoted is meaningless why did you bother calculating three other years to the second decimal point. I simply took a multiple year average. Funny you're anal about accuracy and yet the link you included for reference is all about estimates. FWIW 2002 was only approx 1.2%, even more insignificant. I respect your opinion on this but I don't agree with it. Don't forget Canada also has been importing approx a half million tonnes these last few years but also leaving roughly the same amount out in the field in those wonderful harvest management sprayer tracks.

2002 eh. I don't expect you know what happened in Western Canada in 2002....Why be approximate? 1.2%?? Wrong. Again your reference please?

You keep revealing these amazing tidbits of info that no one else is aware of.
Could you please reference where Canada is recorded as importing half a million tonnes of wheat per year the last few years? Thanks

Also, you should know that nobody knows how much wheat there is in the world at any given time. It's all estimates....They are all there is to go by. But over time they do become statistics. It would be nice if you used them when trying to manufacture new facts

[Guest]

Could you please reference where Canada is recorded as importing half a million tonnes of wheat per year the last few years?

I've allowed you a few days to find the stats. Have you even looked. Easy to find. Who's manufacturing numbers if they admit they can't find stats????? Anyways here they are, keep them handy.
2001-2002 drought was pretty rough for Sask/Alb, not so much in Manitoba. 1988 drought was worse for us, our problem is hail though.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ca&commodity=wheat&graph=imports

[LEP]

I've allowed you a few days to find the stats. Have you even looked. Easy to find. Who's manufacturing numbers if they admit they can't find stats????? Anyways here they are, keep them handy.
2001-2002 drought was pretty rough for Sask/Alb, not so much in Manitoba. 1988 drought was worse for us, our problem is hail though.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ca&commodity=wheat&graph=imports

There you go. Quote import numbers in two of the worst drought to hit the prairies and pass it off as something that happens regular. No it was an exception. Because of EXTREMELY low production. Again twisting the story to fit your myth.

[farming101]

I've allowed you a few days to find the stats. Have you even looked. Easy to find. Who's manufacturing numbers if they admit they can't find stats????? Anyways here they are, keep them handy.
2001-2002 drought was pretty rough for Sask/Alb, not so much in Manitoba. 1988 drought was worse for us, our problem is hail though.

https://www.indexmundi.com/agriculture/?country=ca&commodity=wheat&graph=imports

Hey Bin thanks for responding! You may want to check this number against other sources....When there is more time I'll post some numbers from the sources below.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/type/data https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/type/data
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/65F0013X https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/en/catalogue/65F0013X
https://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/en/ https://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/en/
http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/crops/reports-and-statistics-data-for-canadian-principal-field-crops/?id=1378743094676 http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/crops/reports-and-statistics-data-for-canadian-principal-field-crops/?id=1378743094676

A bit of a problem when trying to find out how much wheat Canada imports is that wheat from the US lands in Canada on its way to other destinations. It's messy because there is grain in transit to account for as well.
The WASDE, which IndexMundi sc****s data from, has the purpose of counting wheat. It is not so much concerned with who owns it or buys and sells it.

Some lands at Cargill, Baie Comeau,(current capacity is 441,780 Mt) waiting for export....

You might want to read the Canada Grain Act too.
https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/G-10/FullText.html https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/G-10/FullText.html