How many canola acres will not be seeded this year?

[makar]

What became of that guy selling generic 5020 a year ago?

[Sodbuster]

try P501L , it is treated with steroids

Was not overly impressed with P501L last year, was 2-3 bushels under the Invigors. Put one field of it this year, will likely be the last year I grow it unless I get some impressive results. It’s also the only variety that’s not pod shatter on my farm and next year all varieties will be pod shatter.

[Guest]

Was not overly impressed with P501L last year, was 2-3 bushels under the Invigors. Put one field of it this year, will likely be the last year I grow it unless I get some impressive results. It’s also the only variety that’s not pod shatter on my farm and next year all varieties will be pod shatter.

it outyielded our 233p , but 233 had 2 hail events , 233p was as painful to watch grow (before the hail) as some nexeras are
i am not buying any more basf canola with their stupid bag sizes
pioneer gives free bags to make up for large seed size
what i like is that it jumps outta the ground and never looks back , i will give up 2-3 bpa for that piece of mind, if that actually comes to pass , which i doubt here
its actually only a decimal point under pod shatter i think
maybe furrow can answer that ?
lots of guys had trouble thrashing tough pod shatter canola here on a shitty fall, especially with the green machines, wouldn't want it all pod shatter here

[LEP]

it outyielded our 233p , but 233 had 2 hail events , 233p was as painful to watch grow (before the hail) as some nexeras are
i am not buying any more basf canola with their stupid bag sizes
pioneer gives free bags to make up for large seed size
what i like is that it jumps outta the ground and never looks back , i will give up 2-3 bpa for that piece of mind, if that actually comes to pass , which i doubt here
its actually only a decimal point under pod shatter i think
maybe furrow can answer that ?
lots of guys had trouble thrashing tough pod shatter canola here on a shitty fall, especially with the green machines, wouldn't want it all pod shatter here

Lol. All pod shatter in this region. Mostly green combines and no problem thrashing. Only problem with non pod shatter is that the wind has shelled it in the swath or before.

[furrowtickler]

Every area is vastly different.
Yield on most new varieties are very close
But add wind , or fall hail and yup pod shatter will shine
Have an adverse fall and maturity issues like last year and you may get a bushel or two less but swathed will be in the bin most likely number One dry .
Pro and cons of all systems.
For a first year release of 501 being the first “other” Liberty on the market in 20 years, 501 is right there in most situations. All the new series will most likely have harvest max trait in them .
Tough to beat most Invigours , but they are not unbeatable by any means , no canola variety Or system is or ever will be .
Lots of good canola varieties out there , use what works best in your area and conditions.
Just need Mother Nature to play ball .
Some varieties are naturally much stronger vigour , depends on many factors .
Also some big differences in seed treatments DYODD there .

[Guest]

how close is 501 to 233p on that pod shatter scale?

[Guest]

Lol. All pod shatter in this region. Mostly green combines and no problem thrashing. Only problem with non pod shatter is that the wind has shelled it in the swath or before.

the problem here was they had to quit early and start late ,or it would go out the ass end, it was standing though , very short days when conditions were shitty
the green comment was a weak attempt at humour, lol. the red ones were the same

[FarmJunkie]

Not to say it don’t yield Case but our neighbour had it last year across the road from our 255 and his hail damage was 15% higher than ours. They gave us the minimum and he lost a lot more. Visibly looking it definitely had a lot more loss regardless of the adjusters eye.

[furrowtickler]

Not to say it don’t yield Case but our neighbour had it last year across the road from our 255 and his hail damage was 15% higher than ours. They gave us the minimum and he lost a lot more. Visibly looking it definitely had a lot more loss regardless of the adjusters eye.

Kinda apples and oranges . Pod shatter varieties will withstand late hail much better . That’s all part of the design actually. Any non pod shatter varieties can be more vulnerable. Nature of the beast so they say .

[Oliver88]

the problem here was they had to quit early and start late ,or it would go out the ass end, it was standing though , very short days when conditions were shitty
the green comment was a weak attempt at humour, lol. the red ones were the same

From what I see the best value in a swather is Massey Ferguson.

[farmaholic]

Pod shatter, shatter resistant, blah blah blah.

Be careful because every SeedCo will rate one of their products as shatter resistant....even if it isn't very good.
Everyone SeedCo wants or feels they need one in their portfolio....can't lose market share you know.

[Oliver88]

Pod shatter, shatter resistant, blah blah blah.

Be careful because every SeedCo will rate one of their products as shatter resistant....even if it isn't very good.
Everyone SeedCo wants or feels they need one in their portfolio....can't lose market share you know.

Is there any margin in the seed business at only $700 per bushel?

[helmsdale]

Is there any margin in the seed business at only $700 per bushel?

Should a left up the truck comment. Honestly it was spot on.

[LEP]

the problem here was they had to quit early and start late ,or it would go out the ass end, it was standing though , very short days when conditions were shitty
the green comment was a weak attempt at humour, lol. the red ones were the same

You are right there are many areas with completely different conditions. Not saying what works for us is what you should do.

Our biggest risk, once crop is established is swathing. More than one year I have seen canola hanging from the powerlines here. Because of that risk, anybody with any amount of acres, puts in pod shatter resistant. Simply risk management.