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    #25
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Most universities and colleges are full of hard working a successful students from all backgrounds. I think one of the issues is many people in rural areas don't have much contact with successful minorities and they often revert to the stereotypes.

    Personal drive will overcome many of the obstacles children face given the right circumstance. But where you are born and who your parents are have a big impact on what options you have. University and college are not an option for many kids because there are not the financial resources available. There are many working poor single parents who have hard time keeping the necessities of life together. I doubt they can afford an RESP or the tuition especially if they have several kids.
    It’s called student loans
    We have to do it , will take kids several years to pay off but that’s life

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      #26
      Originally posted by bobofthenorth View Post
      Here's a thought - Indians are "over represented" in prisons because that's who is doing the crime. And by the way, this also explains the missing and murdered Indian women problem that you lefties like to whine about - they're going missing and murdered because their husbands, brothers, boy friends, fathers, uncles and assorted other male relatives are killing them.


      That entirely depends which day you were listening to that ass kissing, boot licking chubby nitwit.


      Yet again you are reading selectively. There are numerous instances where people of colour have vehemently stated that they are NOT subject to racism. That in fact the reason 100s of 1000s of refugees are clamoring to enter Canada is precisely because of our tolerance.
      You are in denial Bob! Racism is a fact of life. People of color are more often have negative experiences with police and the public. You would have to live under a stone not recognize the problem.

      How do you know who committed all the crimes against MMIW? Most of the cases are unsolved. Another racist assumption.

      Someone in Regina recently saw a black teacher going to his car and posts a photo on social media and writes "Lock your car there are thieves in the neighborhood"! That's racism Bobby. The assumption that a black man is thief!

      Your comments about RCMP Commissioner are disgusting. Just because you think there is no racism you show your ugly contempt for those who disagree with you. Comments like those show who who you really are.

      Yes First nations commit crime. If you look at any group of poor marginalized people with lots of social problems they often commit crime just to survive because in a racist society the deck is stacked against them. And they usually don't have enough money to hire the best lawyers to represent them. So they end up with more convictions. That's racism Bobby!
      Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 14, 2020, 08:39.

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        #27
        Debunking the myth that all First Nations people receive free post-secondary education


        https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/debunking-the-myth-that-all-first-nations-people-receive-free-post-secondary-education-1.3414183 https://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/debunking-the-myth-that-all-first-nations-people-receive-free-post-secondary-education-1.3414183

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          #28
          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
          It’s called student loans
          We have to do it , will take kids several years to pay off but that’s life
          Furrow, student loans do not solve all the issues in access to education. Read and learn.

          https://www.opencanada.org/features/inequality-explained-hidden-gaps-canadas-education-system/ https://www.opencanada.org/features/inequality-explained-hidden-gaps-canadas-education-system/

          Inequality Explained: The hidden gaps in Canada’s education system

          While Canada’s education system ranks high among OECD countries, socioeconomic inequality factors in at all levels. This is why it matters.

          In addition to behavioural benefits, the schools with a higher proportion of wealthy students (i.e. those in high-income neighbourhoods) receive a higher academic ranking. Statistics Canada shows that “the higher socio-economic status of private school students and their peers accounts for half of the difference in the average score of standardized tests between private and public school students.” This achievement gap widens and enforces income inequality by supporting the future success of high-income students and leaving low-income students behind.

          Lowest income bracket: On average, the situation for students in low-income families is entirely different. They face inequalities beyond just access to academic and extracurricular support. This becomes obvious when looking at the one in five children in British Columbia who currently live in poverty, without safe and secure housing, basic necessities such as warm clothing, and access to sufficient food. In Toronto and elsewhere, household instability and poverty may be contributing to the underrepresentation of low-income students with a ‘gifted’ designation (unusually high intellect) and overrepresentation of this group in the ‘special needs’ categorization.

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            #29
            In the USA there is a reason so many blacks are over represented in prison because they often plead guilty to avoid the risk of longer sentences if they don't take a plea deal. If your poor and black can you hire the best lawyers? Nope


            "Not everyone goes to trial. If every single person had a trial, the entire system would shut down. It often comes down to: you can take this plea deal and go to jail for three years, or you can go to trial and go to jail for 30 years if you lose. As a result, 97% of people do not go to trial and instead take a plea bargain."

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              #30
              Yup some good points
              Also what helps is working part time and summer jobs to help pay your own way

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                #31
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                No issue? Tell that to the black and indigenous people who are often stopped and harassed by police for little reason except they are a visible minority.
                It all sounds so simple. If there was no crime then there would be no racism. And the police never break the law or commit crimes against minorities. We just saw it in several videos! There will be more and more videos.
                I must of been off white when i was young and in trouble quite frequently because the cops stopped me all the time for no reason at all , funny thing is they usually found something wrong
                Anyways i grew up quick and now that i am pure white , they never stop me anymore
                Fu-k, you are a piece of work !

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                  #32
                  Thanks Furrow.

                  We should be providing as much quality education and supports as possible so that we can get first nations off the government support and living productive, independent satisfying lives. Its the only way out.

                  Spend the money early to make their lives and education better and we will get results that will save a lot more money later. We can't fix all their social problems in the criminal justice system. It won't work and its too late.

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by caseih View Post
                    I must of been off white when i was young and in trouble quite frequently because the cops stopped me all the time for no reason at all , funny thing is they usually found something wrong
                    Anyways i grew up quick and now that i am pure white , they never stop me anymore
                    Fu-k, you are a piece of work !
                    What do I have to do with the issue at hand? So if you disagree explain why. And how would you know what it is like to be black or indigenous?

                    Its obvious why you were stopped so many time. Because you were a trouble maker! hahahhah

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                      #34
                      Free money does not solve issues , it creates more problems

                      Earned money gives one a much different perspective
                      That’s goes for anyone regardless of age , sex , race whatever..

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                        #35
                        First Nations students get 30 per cent less funding than other children, economist says

                        First Nations children living on reserve receive at least 30 per cent less funding for their education as children under provincial jurisdiction, according to a former chief economist with the TD Bank.

                        Don Drummond's assertion runs counter to testimony from a senior official with the department of Indigenous Affairs last week during an inquest into the deaths of seven First Nations students in Thunder Bay, Ont.

                        https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/first-nations-education-funding-gap-1.3487822

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                          #36
                          Ottawa still failing to provide adequate health care on reserves: report

                          An assessment of First Nations health care produced by the federal health department early last year shows the government is aware that it is failing in almost every respect to deliver adequate treatment and medical services to people living on reserves.

                          The review was conducted for Health Minister Jane Philpott after the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal found the government is discriminating against vulnerable indigenous children on reserves by providing them with less money for welfare than is available elsewhere in Canada. It points to significant gaps for First Nations in primary care, health promotion and prevention, child development, infrastructure, non-insured health benefits and environmental health.

                          https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-still-failing-to-provide-adequate-health-care-on-reserves-report/article33746065/

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