Seedmaster issues

[Robertbarlage]

So the other thread got me thinking about opening rounds or going around sloughs, we always go clockwise so the openers don't over lap because of the three row set up it just does on our 60 foot. But going clockwise around anything the right side of drill seeds perfect because the fertilizer knife gets further away from the seed. Now on the left side the seed knife goes through the fertilizer row because the fertizer knife is switched to left side of seed opener. Has anyone tried changing all the fertilizer knive setup to the other side of opener on left side of machine? Do the other machines manufactures do the same? As in left and rights? It's supposed to be for skewing why they do that but **** it's so shity anyway would it be okay to make them all the same across machine? Ya I know I should buy a bourgault!

[Robertbarlage]

We have some fertilizer burn we think because of this. Or is machine maybe coming out of ground on left side?

[Sodbuster]

If you don’t like going clockwise you could buy it’s twin and go counter clockwise.

[farming101]

Having left and right setup for seed shank was an option. If you have lots of curves and circles I don't think I'd want it.

If it was kinda dry for a while after seeding fertilizer burn can happen especially on hills. Anhydrous? Might look at a stabilizer

[furrowtickler]

A lot of seed establishment issues and slow growth can be partly attributed to Fertilizer. Especially with higher rates most guys use . Seen it lots over the past few years . Especially under drier conditions.
Machinery companies and agronomists won’t admit it much though

[farming101]

Over the years it seems wheat has been the most sensitive.
Although canola is thought to be sensitive to high fert it seems to come up just fine

[macdon02]

The liquid wings on my 3320, no i didn't drink the mrb koolaid, are half left, half right, to prevent seed in fert, not saying it's perfect but does help for plugging compared to 5710 where everything was same side. Depends on how tight you are turning.

[Robertbarlage]

Yes NH3 . was dry to long. This year was straight up and down but most years constant turning.

[macdon02]

Yes NH3 . was dry to long. This year was straight up and down but most years constant turning.

You want to see interesting stuff on fert placement? Follow this guy, he's a great salesman of his consulting, but he's seen enough to know. I don't use him but the pics he posts are startling

[farmaholic]

If I could only get a decent rain.......

[farmaholic]

Would a sixty foot drill really skew if shank orientation was all the same? Surely there is enough drag in 60 feet to keep it straight, unless hillsides would be a problem. I like the carelessness the Bourg MRB allows me when not having to worry about good separation in high fert applications. I will definitely say I think there's a problem of too much seperation under dry conditions if there is more rooting down than lateral root movememt....even though we add a starter blend to the seedrow made with a Dutch Universal 2 inch spread tip.

Wouldn't it be nice if it didn't matter!

[macdon02]

If I could only get a decent rain.......

Everything works some of the time and nothing works all of the time. Moisture redeems all sins

[TOM4CWB]

Would a sixty foot drill really skew if shank orientation was all the same? Surely there is enough drag in 60 feet to keep it straight, unless hillsides would be a problem. I like the carelessness the Bourg MRB allows me when not having to worry about good separation in high fert applications. I will definitely say I think there's a problem of too much seperation under dry conditions if there is more rooting down than lateral root movememt....even though we add a starter blend to the seedrow made with a Dutch Universal 2 inch spread tip.

Wouldn't it be nice if it didn't matter!

Ahhh... PeRFECTION!!!

Thinking can be dangerous...

We have installed sure-shot on our sprayer... so inside of boom on corners does not over-apply and outside under-apply... to get rid of those [over-application] nasty burns on inside and poor coverage on outside of turns....

Guess what... seeder is doing the same thing... way over rate [on inside of curve] and way under rate on outside of seeder that is going over twice as fast.... [can be stopped inside... 10mph on outside of sharp corner] . New Holland has an electric motor on each section controlled run[ 5 runs on our 50']... so it could slow down inside seeder run motors... and speed up outside run motors to get rate up... when making corners... Deere can't do this with the section control system set up they have [hyd motor driving whole meter pack right across all 8 runs [on 56'] all at the same speed] side to side inside to outside of seeder on curved turn.
New Holland motors giving trouble this year...stole motors off extra runs when some quit... Deere section controls jam up... have to pull Deere meter pack and clean out [section control run that is sticking] when sometimes section control gates won't shut off when whole meter pack is still running...

The more complex it gets... Deere loads up seed[especially canola] on each section control [that is shut with meter pack still going for one of the other sections still seeding]... then dumps a bunch when it starts one of the section controllers[that was stopped]...New Holland system does not do this with individual electric motors on each run [that shuts off each run individually]when doing [one or more of the] section controls on pie shaped seeding. Square fields... without pot holes full of water... no need for all this monstrosity of seeder and sprayer section controllers [c/w $500K seeders and sprayers]!

God help us all if GPS goes down! Hoe to seed and weed would be interesting world view!!!

The luddite put potholes back and farm with horses environmentalists... wouldn't be farming / getting their food from the basement over the internet... THE WORLD OF PARADOXES AND MANAGERIAL GOVERNMENT/ HIGH TECH... JOBS...CAN BE PERPLEXING... FORGETFUL JOE AND COTTAGE JUSTIN... LIVE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD THAN US. DEFUND THE POLICE AND NO JAIL FOR THIEVES... NO carbon FUELS... ONLY need 5G INTERNET to succeed!!!

[Braveheart]

We have a Seedmaster and use high rates but can't say we've seen fertilizer damage on the turns. Sometimes the three ranks leave seed not in the furrow, but under the hump between furrows (because of the turning). This results in the seed buried deeper and slower to emerge or just not coming up. Fertilizer should be below the seedrow even if they overlap.

[Guest]

I just wonder , wheat was really slow this year
Like 101 said it is wheat that takes it the hardest
But we shut one tank fert off when seeding on angle when coming into headland and your finishing up pie shape into headland , so it should look better and it doesnt
And plug fert runs look horrible and yellow with none beside row
Think it was just the non stop wind, cold and dry