Jason Kenney Pushes Back Against Alberta Separatists

[chuckChuck]

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jason-kenney-alberta-separatists_ca_5eed4419c5b64ea6da1e08ee https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jason-kenney-alberta-separatists_ca_5eed4419c5b64ea6da1e08ee


Dean Bennett
Canadian Press

Jason Kenney Pushes Back Against Alberta Separatists
“I am an unqualified Canadian patriot, and I don’t believe you can qualify your patriotism,” Kenney said.

“I am an unqualified Canadian patriot, and I don’t believe you can qualify your patriotism,” Kenney said Friday.

“Either you love your country or you don’t.”

Kenney added that Alberta’s separation threat is an empty one, because there’s no evidence anything close to a majority of Albertans want it. And such a move would further hinder Alberta’s economy as it tries to dig out from COVID-related unemployment and a cratered oil and natural gas sector, he said.

“I completely understand and sympathize with the profound frustration that so many Albertans have with the way that Canada has worked, particularly in recent years,” said Kenney.

“But I fundamentally believe (separation) is the wrong path for Alberta.

“You don’t make a threat that you’re not prepared to keep, and I’ve not seen a single public opinion poll which indicates we’re anywhere close to a majority of Albertans voting to leave Canada. And so I regard it as an empty threat.”

Kenney said on a pragmatic level, separation is a fool’s errand given that Alberta would only further landlock itself at a time it is trying to get more of its oil to the west coast to ship abroad.

He pointed to Quebec in the late 1970s, which stirrings of separatism lead to businesses leaving en masse for provinces with more secure political climates.

“We’re certainly not going to get investment to create jobs back in Alberta if we create a crisis of confidence by having a vote on separation,” said Kenney.

“Let’s keep our eye on the ball.”

[ajl]

I did vote for Kenny primarily to get rid of Racheal, but as many pointed out he will have to be replaced as well since he is not up to the task in AB. There have been countless discussion on this topic and all point to the same thing: there are countless reasons for AB to go and NONE for it to stay. Why on earth would AB stay on the deck of the titanic that is canuckistan? It is going to sink.

[chuckChuck]

Kenney said on a pragmatic level, separation is a fool’s errand given that Alberta would only further landlock itself at a time it is trying to get more of its oil to the west coast to ship abroad.

He pointed to Quebec in the late 1970s, which stirrings of separatism lead to businesses leaving en masse for provinces with more secure political climates.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Kenney said on a pragmatic level, separation is a fool’s errand given that Alberta would only further landlock itself at a time it is trying to get more of its oil to the west coast to ship abroad.

He pointed to Quebec in the late 1970s, which stirrings of separatism lead to businesses leaving en masse for provinces with more secure political climates.

I relaize you have trouble with Geography, but if you look closely at a map, you might iscover that the USA has a few locations that might make decent ports. And if you look at electoral maps of the country formerly known as Canada, you might find that most of the regions necessary for port access don't vote for the status quo.
But you are probably still worried about Saskatchewan's offshore drilling problems... if only you had a map.

[chuckChuck]

Joining the US is even less popular! Dig yourself a deeper hole A5

[blackpowder]

All BS aside.
Separation is emotionally appealing.
Politically impossible at this point.
If Chuck was an Albertan he wouldn't be picking this fight. Why can't he start kicking Quebec for a while?
Impatience is growing with Kenney.
But here also, the urban vote rules.
People who are getting emotional over pulling out of CPP need coddling. Sad.

[jazz]

Just a stall tactic to see if we can take skippy out this time with a better run campaign. We will be at the polls inside of a year I would bet.

If skippy steals the election again look out.

[seldomseen]

Chuck must be bored so he comes looking for an argument. So i guess Kenny your guy Chucky that's why you posted this? From past posted i wouldn't have thought so?

[15444]

Make Wexit Alberta a provincially electable party and let the voters decide. I bet they would form opposition at the very least.

Kenney has shown his true colors. He doesn't care about Alberta. He has a national party agenda. Time to throw him out the next round.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

All BS aside.
Separation is emotionally appealing.
Politically impossible at this point.
If Chuck was an Albertan he wouldn't be picking this fight. Why can't he start kicking Quebec for a while?
Impatience is growing with Kenney.
But here also, the urban vote rules.
People who are getting emotional over pulling out of CPP need coddling. Sad.

I would respectfully suggest you have that backwards. Separation is economically appealing, but emotionally it is downright scary. We've been raised as Canadians back when we were all young and impressionable, our ancestors fought wars as Canadians ( or British subjects), pop culture and media of all types paint a less than flattering picture of US crime, inequality, lack of health care etc. When we travel, we've been ingrained to believe that Canadians are the good guys, while Americans are unwelcome. I'd say emotion is almost entirely causing us to be hesitant to separate. Call it Stockholm syndrome, Chuck has an incurable and likely fatal case of it, the rest of us have it to varying degrees.

It is only when you make the economic argument do you realize that we can't let this be an emotional debate. We are emotionally longing for a country that has for all intents and purposes ceased to exist on the utopian pedestal we have it on in our imaginations, and will only get worse from here on out.

If I thought there was a snowballs chance in H*** that we could compromise on an economic future that wouldn't bleed the west dry while simultaneously thwarting all attempts at wealth creation, I would choose the devil I know over the circus that is the US and American politics right now. Realistically, it is the only way forward. And it is worth noting that the chaos and divisiveness is not occurring in ND, SD, Idaho Wyoming, Montana etc., just like it wouldn't be occurring in Alberta, Sask etc when we are states.

[sumdumguy]

It's time to boot carbon tax chuck in the ass !

That's just the Cowboy in me !

Watch it, the boys with stripe legs gonna come get you for threatening.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

It's time to boot carbon tax chuck in the ass !

That's just the Cowboy in me !

It's too late, He already laughed it off In another thread, Over a statement that wasn't the slightest bit funny

[flea beetle]

Chuck must be bored so he comes looking for an argument. So i guess Kenny your guy Chucky that's why you posted this? From past posted i wouldn't have thought so?

It is more that he wants to disturb the peace and then slink away like a weasel so that he doesn't have to face the music. The guy won't even debate points that he himself brought up.

[chuckChuck]

Flea Beetle, If my memory is correct I think you are referring to the idea of resource sharing that I brought up. Here is a report on the subject.

Sharing The Wealth How resource revenue agreements can honour treaties, improve communities, and facilitate Canadian development Ken S. Coates January 2015

https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf

[chuckChuck]

Did Wiseguy get the boot? LOL

If he disagrees with me he seems unable to make an argument beyond "get lost I don't like you".

I guess he missed the lesson on effective debating.