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    #16
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Did Wiseguy get the boot? LOL

    If he disagrees with me he seems unable to make an argument beyond "get lost I don't like you".

    I guess he missed the lesson on effective debating.
    You sure as hell did

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      #17
      I think Kenney is a big disappointment. He isn’t any better than Scheer, DEAD WEIGHT. Western premiers should make a stand. Did Quebec care if they won or lost the separation vote? Just that threat got them the clout that they wanted.

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        #18
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Flea Beetle, If my memory is correct I think you are referring to the idea of resource sharing that I brought up. Here is a report on the subject.
        Resources are already shared with every Canadian no matter where they live. Our socialist tax structure makes sure of that. In fact they are disproportionately shared with people who live in provinces that have none.

        If they strike oil or gold on a reserve then obviously that band should benefit much more proportionately.

        But if they hit oil on my land, that's between me, the oil company and the taxman, period and I would expect a smaller share of the revenues because its the technology and ingenuity that brings that resource out of the ground, ownership is a smaller part of the equation.

        Your idea would drive what little investment we have left right out of the country.

        I had the Enbridge folks come by to settle up this spring. They had some damages on my land following construction. During their reclamation they had 9 indigenous inspectors watching on my land. You can see where this is clearly going.

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          #19
          Nobody is forcing you to read anything! And it is public forum not your private group chat! LOL

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Nobody is forcing you to read anything! And it is public forum not your private group chat! LOL
            I must have a poor sense of humor. Could someone please explain to me what in that statement would cause someone to laugh out loud ?

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              #21
              AF5.
              Perhaps you are correct. Was speaking for myself I suppose. I've been listening to special status, hyphenated citizens all my life. While watching a system to the south that seemed fair and productive.

              But politically, in this province, separation is highly unlikely. He won't even win the pension vote for chris' sake.

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                #22
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Flea Beetle, If my memory is correct I think you are referring to the idea of resource sharing that I brought up. Here is a report on the subject.

                Sharing The Wealth How resource revenue agreements can honour treaties, improve communities, and facilitate Canadian development Ken S. Coates January 2015

                https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf
                You could jog your memory by going to re-read it. It is still there. Kinda funny that you have been twisting and turning for so long to avoid answering anything, that you forgot what you were even avoiding.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Flea Beetle, If my memory is correct I think you are referring to the idea of resource sharing that I brought up. Here is a report on the subject.

                  Sharing The Wealth How resource revenue agreements can honour treaties, improve communities, and facilitate Canadian development Ken S. Coates January 2015

                  https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf
                  It seems your criminal buddy Allan Adam was vocal about First Nations getting special treatment over the rest of Canadians.

                  Funny you talk like First Nations don’t receive any of this money. They receive the same as any other regular Canadian from the programs in place, and you think they deserve special treatment (more money) than the rest of Canadians?

                  Also never saw any mention of wind and solar in my skimming. Only oil, gas, and mining. Why would you be a proponent of these dirty, filthy industries? Surely the way you talk, they should be shut down and then the FN people would be out in the dark.

                  The only way this works is if they were to give up their treaties. Then they would be on the same playing field as everyone else.
                  Last edited by flea beetle; Jun 21, 2020, 12:18.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Flea Beetle, If my memory is correct I think you are referring to the idea of resource sharing that I brought up. Here is a report on the subject.

                    Sharing The Wealth How resource revenue agreements can honour treaties, improve communities, and facilitate Canadian development Ken S. Coates January 2015

                    https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf https://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/files/pdf/MLIresourcerevenuesharingweb.pdf
                    True , but there also be stipulations in earning wealth as well for all
                    You can’t have half of society earning wealth just to “share” with the others ... that will be a train wreck as well .
                    Certain First Nations , notably a few in western Canada have figured this out and are thriving and so are the people there .
                    There has been billions and billions allotted over the years . It will not solve All issues by just giving money away .
                    Earned money has much more respect for those that work for it .... regardless of race . Been proven all over the world 🌎

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                      #25
                      I rarely agree with Kenney but in this one I’m with him 200%.

                      Separatists are a smidgeon of a minority. It’s too bad that some of them are so vocal.

                      I wonder how separatists introduce themselves when travelling?

                      I’ve never said I’m Albertan, I always say I’m Canadian. When asked what part I’ll say Alberta but I always identify as Canadian.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                        Separatists are a smidgeon of a minority. It’s too bad that some of them are so vocal..
                        If that's true, then the rest must be sadomachoists who love getting abused in the name of being Canadian.

                        Ask Quebecers if they feel Canadian, or first nations. You might be surprised at the answers.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                          I rarely agree with Kenney but in this one I’m with him 200%.

                          Separatists are a smidgeon of a minority. It’s too bad that some of them are so vocal.

                          I wonder how separatists introduce themselves when travelling?

                          I’ve never said I’m Albertan, I always say I’m Canadian. When asked what part I’ll say Alberta but I always identify as Canadian.
                          I don’t fly a Canadian flag anymore. Says a lot. Have a few neighbours that say the same.
                          Last edited by flea beetle; Jun 21, 2020, 17:28.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by jazz View Post
                            If that's true, then the rest must be sadomachoists who love getting abused in the name of being Canadian.

                            Ask Quebecers if they feel Canadian, or first nations. You might be surprised at the answers.
                            I don’t feel any more abused being in Alberta than I do being in agriculture.

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                              #29
                              I have never felt abused.
                              But I can only handle so much stupid and I have to boil over or tune out.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                                I rarely agree with Kenney but in this one I’m with him 200%.

                                Separatists are a smidgeon of a minority. It’s too bad that some of them are so vocal.

                                I wonder how separatists introduce themselves when travelling?

                                I’ve never said I’m Albertan, I always say I’m Canadian. When asked what part I’ll say Alberta but I always identify as Canadian.
                                Me too. However I was on a booze cruise that had a contingent of drunk obnoxious Québécois. When they were asking who was Canadian I didn’t jump up and down and admit it.

                                Actually come to think of it neither did they.

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