Jason Kenney Pushes Back Against Alberta Separatists

[jazz]

I don’t feel any more abused being in Alberta than I do being in agriculture.

Other than the wheat board abuse, has your govt ever enacted legislation that you cant take your product on national infrastructure through a coastal port on to a ship and exported to willing overseas buyers?

[Blaithin]

Other than the wheat board abuse, has your govt ever enacted legislation that you cant take your product on national infrastructure through a coastal port on to a ship and exported to willing overseas buyers?

Yes. Except they probably weren’t willing overseas buyers at the time.

But I wasn't speaking of abuse from a political standpoint.

Alberta separatists feel used and unappreciated. Not just by the government but by “Out East”

Farmers and the ag industry as a whole typically battle similar feelings of under appreciation, being misunderstood and in general, just being grossly overlooked. Not just politically, by almost all of the population not included in the ag industry.

For some reason people in Alberta have decided they deserve things. Their rights demand it. But I find rights to be funny things. If you actually stop to think about it, rights are purely imagined creations of our minds. As imaginary figments, of course my idea of rights aren’t going to line up with yours and Alberta’s won’t line up with Ontario’s, etc etc. Same applies to morals. They’re very cultural creations. So if you start battling rights against rights you end up.... having a world consumed in BLM protests.

And personally, I really don’t want Alberta to turn into a ground zero for those kinds of scenarios.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Yes. Except they probably weren’t willing overseas buyers at the time.

But I wasn't speaking of abuse from a political standpoint.

Alberta separatists feel used and unappreciated. Not just by the government but by “Out East”

Farmers and the ag industry as a whole typically battle similar feelings of under appreciation, being misunderstood and in general, just being grossly overlooked. Not just politically, by almost all of the population not included in the ag industry.

For some reason people in Alberta have decided they deserve things. Their rights demand it. But I find rights to be funny things. If you actually stop to think about it, rights are purely imagined creations of our minds. As imaginary figments, of course my idea of rights aren’t going to line up with yours and Alberta’s won’t line up with Ontario’s, etc etc. Same applies to morals. They’re very cultural creations. So if you start battling rights against rights you end up.... having a world consumed in BLM protests.

And personally, I really don’t want Alberta to turn into a ground zero for those kinds of scenarios.

I couldn't disagree more. Certain inalienable rights are universal, no matter the region, the races, gender, culture etc, and are an absolute necessity to have a functioning economy.

If we expect people to invest and risk their capital and labour into improving society, then we need to protect property rights, patent and trademark rights, the right to reinvest, or enjoy most of the profit of ones labours.

Study the history of world economies. The connection between protecting rights, and economic success is undeniable. You can probably guess which country has done the best job of protecting rights, and the economic results of that.

As a libertarian, I feel that we all have the right to do or say anything unless it infringes on someone else's rights. I want the government to stay out of my bedroom, and our of my wallet. Another region of the country dictating how our resources will be ( or will not be) developed, and taxation without representation( which is what equalization is, the western provinces could not possible change this arrangement by voting), are infringing on our rights.

Not sure I understand your statement about ground zero and BLM. Why would Alberta degenerate into that? Alberta is a very inclusive and successful multicultural society. There is no history of slavery and all that followed that in Alberta.

[foragefarmer]

While travelling in other countries I have never shied away from letting others know I'm Canadian, even if it's within a large crowd. Once others find out I'm Canadian there is nothing but positive feed back regarding our great country.

It's kind of sad that some on here are so negative towards our great country (Canada) just because of politics and politicians in power aren't of their choice.


On our farm always proud to fly two Canadian flags regardless of who's running the country!

[flea beetle]

While travelling in other countries I have never shied away from letting others know I'm Canadian, even if it's within a large crowd. Once others find out I'm Canadian there is nothing but positive feed back regarding our great country.

It's kind of sad that some on here are so negative towards our great country (Canada) just because of politics and politicians in power aren't of their choice.


On our farm always proud to fly two Canadian flags regardless of who's running the country!

That used to be the message I would receive as well when I was travelling. Now it is more, what is going on over there? They can see that something isn’t right from the outside looking in.

The reason some are negative, is they are disgusted to watch a once great nation go down the tubes. It is not who is leading that is our gripe. It is what is being done to the country, and in turn gets put back on the leader. Most everyone gave Trudeau a chance to prove himself. Canada used to be well regarded on the international stage. Now other leaders avoid even talking to Trudeau. SNC lavalin, media bribes, Jodi Wilson Raybould. Scandal after scandal. Not to mention the horrendous drunken sailor debt being taken on, with not much to show for it. (A lot of money being sent to other countries for absolutely zero in return)

This is getting depressing regurgitating these epic failures over the last few years. And I know I have missed a lot. You are right about one thing though. I shouldn’t have taken down my Canadian flag. I should be flying it at half mast.

[jazz]

It's kind of sad that some on here are so negative towards our great country (Canada) just because of politics and politicians in power aren't of their choice.

And there you highlighted the problems we are having. Of course Canada is better than Somalia or 200 other similar countries and that comparison is why so many tolerate corruption. Well we are better than so and so country, cause UN said and Justin so pretty so don't worry.

Compare your country to its peers and the countries that spawned our institutions and foundations of economics, democracy and rule of law.

The Germans destroy us on productivity, the US destroys us on democracy and economics and entrepreneurship, the Japanese destroy us on work ethic, the Norwegians and Swedes destroy us on social programs, the UK destroys us on rule of law and institutions and the French destroy us on culture.

That's why Canada is a g20 country masquerading as a g7.

But china loves us.

[foragefarmer]

"The Germans destroy us on productivity, the US destroys us on democracy and economics and entrepreneurship, the Japanese destroy us on work ethic, the Norwegians and Swedes destroy us on social programs, the UK destroys us on rule of law and institutions and the French destroy us on culture"


Sure cherry pick, compare those countries against each other in each category and they would all fall short against one another. Your point is worthless!

As for throwing the French and English strong points into the mix against Canada is humorous on your part.

[jazz]

Sure cherry pick, compare those countries against each other in each category and they would all fall short against one another. Your point is worthless!

Those are the goal posts for a modern first world economy and democracy. Like it or not.

You don't compare yourself with countries not even in your category. I am not going to ask what somebody in a 3rd world country thinks about Canada. Its meaningless except for virtue signalling.

If you told somebody in those countries I mentioned you are from Canada you would get a collective yawn.