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    Who is paying Ralph Goodale?????

    To write opinion articles about more irrigation????

    The man knows nothing and neither do those that write his articles for him...

    Hey Ralph the Milk River needs some funding first...

    .its really is too bad he is so stupid...

    Do you need irrigation to grow lentils on like what I see in this area????

    #2
    I thought Omar Kadr was still giving traitor Ralph kickbacks?

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      #3
      His opinion piece in the producer is so flawed economically it's embarrassing for him and his handlers to write...

      If irrigation was an economic driver with wealth creation ...here is a couple of questions....

      1. Why does the large districts still need government money after 40 years in operation?

      2. Where is the ROI on the capital cost of these projects?

      3. Why does a farmer need a pivot for lentils?

      4. Where are the big value added projects after 30 years....

      5. Why are potatoes used for cattle feed as opposed to barley? I know why but it's still stupid...the McCains could have got government money and gave away the French fries ....they will still get the money but fed cattle instead of people...



      Blast away...
      Last edited by bucket; Jun 21, 2020, 17:59.

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        #4
        I've read your blasts on irrigation for years now.
        I start to get your point..
        In ag, water is everything.
        So why doesn't it work in SK?
        Govt or attitude or what?
        Buddy did well buying land licensed for water for $100 20 years ago.
        Heat unit shortage?

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          #5
          Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
          I've read your blasts on irrigation for years now.
          I start to get your point..
          In ag, water is everything.
          So why doesn't it work in SK?
          Govt or attitude or what?
          Buddy did well buying land licensed for water for $100 20 years ago.
          Heat unit shortage?
          Heat units are good. It’s kind of a chicken or egg thing. No processing capacity so no special crops.

          There are some potatoes, although most everything that is grown is shipped out of province for seed or processing. Government in the early 2000’s supremely f ucked the industry. Through Spudco they contracted growers to grow and store potatoes then walked on contracts. Virtually bankrupting several individuals or groups of individuals.

          One of the guys that ran Spudco was an ex deputy minister of Ag under the ndp. Went on to work for input capital.

          Examples like that cause a lot of people to sit back and watch rather than jump in and try and build an industry. The risk is just too great.

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            #6
            Originally posted by bucket View Post
            His opinion piece in the producer is so flawed economically it's embarrassing for him and his handlers to write...

            If irrigation was an economic driver with wealth creation ...here is a couple of questions....

            1. Why does the large districts still need government money after 40 years in operation?

            2. Where is the ROI on the capital cost of these projects?

            3. Why does a farmer need a pivot for lentils?

            4. Where are the big value added projects after 30 years....

            5. Why are potatoes used for cattle feed as opposed to barley? I know why but it's still stupid...the McCains could have got government money and gave away the French fries ....they will still get the money but fed cattle instead of people...



            Blast away...
            Bucket your rants on irrigation’s shows your ignorance . Just because lentils are grown in your area? You mean you couldn’t grow something else? Have you Driven from Lethbridge to Medicine Hat and see the gigantic operations going on there. Maybe it’s you that’s doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. If you want to bring back Industry and people them irrigation is one answer. Can support and family no problem with 640 acres

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              #7
              Originally posted by LEP View Post
              Heat units are good. It’s kind of a chicken or egg thing. No processing capacity so no special crops.

              There are some potatoes, although most everything that is grown is shipped out of province for seed or processing. Government in the early 2000’s supremely f ucked the industry. Through Spudco they contracted growers to grow and store potatoes then walked on contracts. Virtually bankrupting several individuals or groups of individuals.

              One of the guys that ran Spudco was an ex deputy minister of Ag under the ndp. Went on to work for input capital.

              Examples like that cause a lot of people to sit back and watch rather than jump in and try and build an industry. The risk is just too great.
              So potatoes is all you can grow in irrigation?

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                #8
                Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                So potatoes is all you can grow in irrigation?
                Wouldn't alfalfa for silage or pelleting be rank.

                I wonder if hemp for CBD oil would work.

                Canola would be insane and need fungicides....by air.

                What are the more common crops grown under the pivots?

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                  #9
                  Buddy is renting his acres out there for what I pay here.
                  I get the chicken or egg thing.
                  I get it's somewhat isolated.
                  I also get how hard it would be when everyone expects failure.
                  I realize it's not Lethbridge.
                  Govt Spudco a lesson in socialism I guess.
                  Perhaps financially, land there has reached a peak like everywhere else.
                  If still getting subsidy maybe that's not right.
                  But if I could have a redo with guarenteed water.
                  A local I know was very happy to move out there. Says it's a different culture.
                  Too many years of being held back.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                    So potatoes is all you can grow in irrigation?
                    Nope. But that was my example. Can’t expect them to grow carrots and then Decide where they will be processed. I agree when the whole industry gets rolling it’s a big generator of wealth. But to get it kickstarted is tough. Especially when the government nutted the early adopters on potatoes.
                    Last edited by LEP; Jun 21, 2020, 21:29.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                      Bucket your rants on irrigation’s shows your ignorance . Just because lentils are grown in your area? You mean you couldn’t grow something else? Have you Driven from Lethbridge to Medicine Hat and see the gigantic operations going on there. Maybe it’s you that’s doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. If you want to bring back Industry and people them irrigation is one answer. Can support and family no problem with 640 acres
                      A billion dollars over 100000 additional irrigation acres is 10000 dollars an acre....

                      If it so lucrative let those that want to develop it write the cheques. ..and if you are going to support irrigation to that effect....maybe it's time to look at the value dryland farming brings to the table. ..


                      I won't argue the fact there could be benefits to irrigation and in Alberta it's working.

                      My complaint is with who gets the bill in Saskatchewan. ...

                      BTW ...these so called capitalist irrigation wannabe farmers want a government grant to sled their land to find out if it's irrigatable in the first place...
                      If they can't afford that....pretty good chance they can't afford the 10000 dollar an acre it would cost to develop.
                      Last edited by bucket; Jun 21, 2020, 22:34.

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                        #12
                        Apparently CBD oil dropped from $40k/ unit to $800. I don't know if that a gallon or pound or what but that market is totally screwed. I believe Canopy growth has reduced acres down to 300 from 4000~ locally. Don't quote me on the acres last year but it was significantly higher. Lethbridge is not Sask as far as irrigation, much different growing season. I soil sampled around a bunch of frozen shit canola swaths in spring of 05 that were under pivots. Not an every year occurrence I'm sure but there's a difference in growing season, carrots maybe? Idk.

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                          #13
                          How is the Alberta irrigation infrastructure, maintenance and operating costs financed?

                          Bucket, is there an unfair subsidy in southern Alberta or is this a good model to copy?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                            How is the Alberta irrigation infrastructure, maintenance and operating costs financed?

                            Bucket, is there an unfair subsidy in southern Alberta or is this a good model to copy?

                            Southern Alberta irrigation has had plenty of government money thrown at it....it's the capitalist way

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by vvalk View Post
                              Bucket your rants on irrigation’s shows your ignorance . Just because lentils are grown in your area? You mean you couldn’t grow something else? Have you Driven from Lethbridge to Medicine Hat and see the gigantic operations going on there. Maybe it’s you that’s doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. If you want to bring back Industry and people them irrigation is one answer. Can support and family no problem with 640 acres
                              One thought I have Vvalk is there the capacity to export the additional crops that would be produced? Increasing the amount produced imo is not the problem, getting better value for what is produced is. I still grow yellow peas as an example, but a very limited amount as it is very hard on equipment. Really needs to be over $10 a bushel to be worth the wear and tear, just my opinion. I realize irrigation is a benefit where available but to have Ralph Goodale promoting it makes me want to laugh and puke at the same time, sorry not a fan.

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