Wexit

[parsley]

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/corbella-jay-hill-takes-the-reins-of-wexit-bad-news-for-canada


I’m in.

[ajl]

The article sums it up very well, The west has a choice: have a go at it on our own or sink with canuckistan. I am it too.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hill says if these rules couldn’t be changed under the Harper government, then the likelihood of them changing in the future under other governments is as good as zero.

What I have been saying all along, this abusive relationship cannot be changed democratically, regardless of who is in power. This is not a partisan issue.

[bucket]

That is a start to the credibility of Wexit

[dmlfarmer]

Instead of Wexit maybe we just need leadership!

Alberta Needs To Ask A Different Question / By Emma May and Ted Kouri

Jun 24 · 4 min read



Emma May is the Calgary-based founder of Sophie Grace and Charles Real Estate. Ted Kouri is the Edmonton-based founder and president of Incite.
When Premier Jason Kenney launched the Fair Deal Panel last November, many people wondered if it was asking the right questions. Now, with the Panel’s report released to the public, we have our answer.
Asking how Alberta can get a “fair deal” from the rest of Canada was always bound to elicit a certain set of ideas, and many of them were floated the moment the panel was launched. Now that the report is public, it’s clear that most of these ideas are about creating political leverage and a better negotiating position, rather than growing our economy and building a long-term vision for the future of our province. This is not a critique of the panelists, who had a challenging task. It is a critique of the narrow, combative focus that was signaled by the very questions posed when the panel launched.
The main premise of the Fair Deal Panel is that our province is getting the short end of the proverbial stick from confederation. Underlying and fueling that sentiment is a belief that the rest of an ungrateful Canada is frustrating our capability to provide for them and ourselves by developing our natural resources. The solution? Enhance our bargaining position in confederation by demanding more from Ottawa and taking on more responsibilities ourselves.
Premier Kenney pointed out in November, as he has many times before and since, that this strategy is borrowed from Quebec, which is perceived to have gotten more out of confederation by taking such measures to improve their bargaining position. But there is a big miscalculation in this logic. Surely any federal government’s willingness to pay extra attention to Quebec’s interests is driven more by political realities like the size of its population, the number of votes and seats in the province, and its demonstrated willingness to vote for different parties in any given election, than by the existence of its provincial police force or administrative system for collecting taxes.
Even more importantly, for all the noise that Quebec has made as confederation’s squeaky wheel, it has paid dearly for the grease it received, thanks to the separatist threat that hung over the province. For example, between 1976 and 1985 more than 700 businesses decamped from the province to Ontario, with the entire financial sector eventually shifting their head offices from Montreal to Toronto. In order to fill the fiscal hole that was created, Quebec’s governments took on more and more debt — a legacy that’s still with the province today.
That’s not a future that Alberta should want any part of. And for all the talk about striking a better deal with Ottawa, most of the ideas the Fair Deal Panel’s report discusses will not actually address the real challenges Alberta faces right now. Holding a referendum on equalization or having our own police force won’t help us adapt to a changing global economy, build a stronger technology ecosystem, foster a culture of entrepreneurship, grow our tourism industry, or take advantage of the opportunities created by the ongoing energy transition. These are the ideas we need to be discussing.
When we frame the issues in “with us or against us” terms, we alienate potential future customers, employees, investors and trading partners from across Canada. Painting Alberta as a frustrated, defiant, and isolated island demanding our “fair share” from Ottawa won’t create the future we want, and it certainly won’t help us get our natural resources to market. Instead, we make the situation worse.
The Fair Deal Panel report does highlight one important truth: we desperately need a different way of thinking, both about our relationship with the rest of the country and our own destiny as a province. For too long, our political conversations in Alberta have been conducted in the language of grievance and frustration. Now, it’s time for us to expand our political vocabulary. It’s time to start talking more about what’s possible in Alberta instead of what isn’t. And it’s time that we struck a fair deal with our own future — one that our children and grandchildren will ultimately inherit.
In order to do that, we need to put everything on the table. That includes ideas that aren’t popular, and realities that aren’t comfortable. Rather than asking what the rest of the country should be doing for us, we ought to be asking what we can do for each other. How might we create pathways to future prosperity, if we look ahead with foresight, make use of the many talents and resources we have, and find new ways to work together?
This province is filled with talented and creative people who want to build a better future here, both for themselves and their children and grandchildren. Their interests are not served by exploiting the disagreements we might have with our fellow Canadians, or by prioritizing partisanship over good policy. It’s time for political and civic leaders of all stripes in Alberta to start talking about our future in ways, and with words, that expand our range of possibilities.

WRITTEN BY

Emma Grace May

[jazz]

Sounds like Emma needs a hug. Awwww.

Now down to real business. AB holds Canadas number one resource and export, energy. All of Canadas real tangible wealth is concentrated in that province. It contributed $200B to GDP and the lions share of equalization every year. Canada does not exist without it unless you would like to roll back our standard of living 50 yrs.

So for the Libs to support that industry would result in a defacto transfer of power away from the golden triangle and they can never let that happen. Power trumps all.

That's the hard reality. And as you have seen, leaders will gladly rule over ruin rather than give up power. Trudeau is about to have a run at that.

[the big wheel]

No actually the real problem is that the west elects people that cannot get the job done of representing our area and all of us instead of one single industry. They’re mostly bought off by the oil industry sit here complaining about the social agendas of liberals instead of dealing with the issue. Had all conservative premiers our here even had a conservative orime minister and couldn’t get things changed? You have to ask why?
Because they’re too focused on the social aspects and so bought off it really doesn’t matter to them what happens economically because it doesn’t affect them like it does all of us stooges that give them our vote unconditionally.
Our so called representatives have been a key factor in destroying the ag programs and rural families way of life yet we keep going back to them looking for help thinking gee if only we had a prime minister from here. Or gee if only we had mps from here. W eve had it and have it but they’ve done nothing except serve themselves. And keep fooling us things will get better if only we keep electing them.
What exactly is their plan? They don’t have one. Which is quite obvious. Even rhe covid thing keep complaining about the money spent helping businesses and individuals keep afloat yet has a conservative voted against this money and is it really the wrong thing to do leave people out to dry? No it isn’t but here they are complaining and spinning the issue when they need to be dealing with the real issue of why they haven’t been effective at representing us.

Or I should say it’s about time we started asking what we re getting for our vote.

[foragefarmer]

Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister has no interest in Wexit, and we all know B.C and Alberta haven't been the best of friends even when both were run by the NDP. So how long would Alberta play nice with it's ugly sister Sask if they ever separated?

Jay Hill an old Reformer, who's party couldn't get it done back in their hay day now thinks he can get it done 25years later.

Maybe Jay can get Preston back in the race again.

[bucket]

Actually what started the building if this country was agriculture people came out west to farm. ...break the land.....resources followed....

Railways were built to move people and export goods...mainly either ag or forest....and to bring supplies from the east until things were up and running out here...


Somewhere the importance of farming has been lost....

[ajl]

Sounds like Emma needs a hug. Awwww.

Now down to real business. AB holds Canadas number one resource and export, energy. All of Canadas real tangible wealth is concentrated in that province. It contributed $200B to GDP and the lions share of equalization every year. Canada does not exist without it unless you would like to roll back our standard of living 50 yrs.

So for the Libs to support that industry would result in a defacto transfer of power away from the golden triangle and they can never let that happen. Power trumps all.

That's the hard reality. And as you have seen, leaders will gladly rule over ruin rather than give up power. Trudeau is about to have a run at that.

Yup. The only interest the east has in the west is for us to continue to pay the bills. That is the harsh reality. Going forward, there are simply not enough resources for us to pay bills for both the west and east. Westerners better get that figured soon. As for Manitoba, your not invited as we don't want Winterpeg. 80% work for the government in that town.

[bucket]

Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister has no interest in Wexit, and we all know B.C and Alberta haven't been the best of friends even when both were run by the NDP. So how long would Alberta play nice with it's ugly sister Sask if they ever separated?

Jay Hill an old Reformer, who's party couldn't get it done back in their hay day now thinks he can get it done 25years later.

Maybe Jay can get Preston back in the race again.

Pallister only has eyes for living off the government tit until it suits him to spend time at his other place...and ensure there is enough still coming in on the indexed pension plan...

[GALAXIE500]

Actually what started the building if this country was agriculture people came out west to farm. ...break the land.....resources followed....

Railways were built to move people and export goods...mainly either ag or forest....and to bring supplies from the east until things were up and running out here...


Somewhere the importance of farming has been lost....

I cannot like this post enough ! It's funny how the honorable profession of putting food on peoples tables is always lost in the conversation. As i sit here on day # 4 of hot dry weather and wind watching our hay and crops wither , I can't help but wonder if " Middle Canada " would like it if 1/2 or 3/4 of their paychecks were just taken away from them. In farm country we have all seen that. Those people haven't , Coronavirus excluded.

[beaverdam]

Actually what started the building if this country was agriculture people came out west to farm. ...break the land.....resources followed....

"people came out west to farm"
Not in our area,,, the people that came to farm were from the USA or a variety of countries in Europe.
I think back then already the central/easterners were content where they were,,,

breaking prairie,,, heck, that's for immigrants !

[samhill]

Wexit

I farm in Mb, sorta, but family been here since th Wolsey Expedition. I think many do a disservice to Mb and Pallister. He is an excellent governor, and works for Mb. Mb has some qualities that are very suitable fo Wexit. A seaport, clean power, and connections to central USA. Get Pallister onside would be a strong ally. Right now he fully understands the function of his office. The old advice “ united we stand, divided we’re playing into the Liberal agenda”.
Have at it, I’m not the sharpest.

[parsley]

One of Canada’s largest pension funds is investing in Saudi Arabia piplelines.

Not the Western Canadian pipelines they teach Ontario children are evil and destroying the world.

They chose to support and fund Saudi Arabia’s economy.

Not Canada’s economy.


https://www.pionline.com/infrastructure/ontario-teachers-gic-among-investors-abu-dhabi-pipeline-deal

The soon we file national divorce papers the better. Pars