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    #71
    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
    The world is going electric whether some want to admit it or not, you are right it has to be feasible but with the demand for power increasing greatly you would think that it would certainly be a prudent investment for the future. But not If the petrol industry owns you I would suppose.
    Really? Where did you get that data? US and Canadian electricity consumption appear to have peaked within the last 10 years. Last I checked, if you remove China and a few other rapidly industrialising nations, the rest of the world is seeing flat to declining demand. A combination of efficiencies, prohibitively expensive prices thanks to Chuck's policies which have resulted in outsourcing of energy intensive industries, demographics etc, are responsible. I would be interested to see your data.

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      #72
      If the world is going electric, then why is Manitoba Hydro on the verge of insolvency? The dams they recently built are basically a stranded asset.

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        #73
        When we all start plugging in cars and eventually tractors to do field work which isn’t that far off relatively speaking. The problem will be the grid not having enough power.
        Getting rid of oil or lowering consumption is here also nobody wants our oil yet we want to expand. It’s all politics of the petroleum industry controlling governments.

        I can’t speak for Manitoba hydro except I did hear there was more a case of mismanagement rather than lack of demand.

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          #74
          Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
          When we all start plugging in cars and eventually tractors to do field work which isn’t that far off relatively speaking. The problem will be the grid not having enough power.
          Getting rid of oil or lowering consumption is here also nobody wants our oil yet we want to expand. It’s all politics of the petroleum industry controlling governments.

          I can’t speak for Manitoba hydro except I did hear there was more a case of mismanagement rather than lack of demand.
          My mistake, I thought we were both talking about actual demand, not Chucks mythical electric vehicle demand. EV sales declined in 2019 long before COVID and the oil price crash, Hey are showing huge declines in 2020 and the industry forecasts declines to continue till 2022. And it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories about energy companies, it is all about economics. Besides, Wyehwood fossil fuel companies be against EV's when they are still fossil fuel powered, just indirectly?
          You really need to stop getting your info from Chuck's propaganda, and do the research yourself.

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            #75
            Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
            My mistake, I thought we were both talking about actual demand, not Chucks mythical electric vehicle demand. EV sales declined in 2019 long before COVID and the oil price crash, Hey are showing huge declines in 2020 and the industry forecasts declines to continue till 2022. And it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories about energy companies, it is all about economics. Besides, Wyehwood fossil fuel companies be against EV's when they are still fossil fuel powered, just indirectly?
            You really need to stop getting your info from Chuck's propaganda, and do the research yourself.
            Sorry I don’t have time to read chucks long winded spiels. Canada is behind most countries that’s why maybe you don’t think the change is coming. We re so backwards with these western provincial governments who only have a narrow minded view of the future. Not all of us can get jobs after we destroy a provincial economy and then be consultants advising for top end oil company lawyers. Lmao!!!!

            Very familiar with what’s going on state wise. Ev car parts is expanding greatly. Major car companies shifting production. It’s what’s happenning.

            It’s sad how many are brainwashed into thinking sitting and waiting for 100 dollar oil is the future. While your sitting those crooks are raking in money overcharging is for worthless oil making us less competive to produce goods that should be the future.
            Beyond stupid!!!!

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                #77
                No, actually Canada is ahead of most countries in electric vehicle sales, 2019 figures at 2.7% total vehicle sales, Compared to only 2.4% worldwide.
                With our Hydro resources, An abundant land locked nearly free natural gas, Electricity here should be so cheap that electric vehicles would be a no-brainer. But unfortunately Chuck and Friends have successfully driven electricity prices higher at a time when they should have been dropping, ruining the best incentive possible to owning an EV.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                  No, actually Canada is ahead of most countries in electric vehicle sales, 2019 figures at 2.7% total vehicle sales, Compared to only 2.4% worldwide.
                  With our Hydro resources, An abundant land locked nearly free natural gas, Electricity here should be so cheap that electric vehicles would be a no-brainer. But unfortunately Chuck and Friends have successfully driven electricity prices higher at a time when they should have been dropping, ruining the best incentive possible to owning an EV.
                  Those numbers mean about as much as the covid numbers. If you have populations that don’t change cars often they will have their old cars If low income they have their old cars and yes if electricity is cheaper they will have their electric cars. You can make any argument fit your narrative at this point. But the facts are all the major car manufactures are headed in a certain direction.
                  Maybe more electric here per capita due to too high gas prices? But you’d have to look at all the other factors as well. Lol

                  You also give to the argument produce more electricity to make it cheaper. That’s not only good for cars it’s good for production of any good we make. And we d make a lot more goods here if electricity and oil was cheaper here.

                  Travelling stateside it is way easier to charge up your vehicle than here at least where I ve been.

                  But hey let’s sit here and wait for 100 dollar oil so we can spend more than we bring in like the last time. And raise the cost of farming Lmao!!!
                  Ass backwards thinking is what we currently have. But people are making good money on it.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                    Those numbers mean about as much as the covid numbers. If you have populations that don’t change cars often they will have their old cars If low income they have their old cars and yes if electricity is cheaper they will have their electric cars. You can make any argument fit your narrative at this point. But the facts are all the major car manufactures are headed in a certain direction.
                    Maybe more electric here per capita due to too high gas prices? But you’d have to look at all the other factors as well. Lol

                    You also give to the argument produce more electricity to make it cheaper. That’s not only good for cars it’s good for production of any good we make. And we d make a lot more goods here if electricity and oil was cheaper here.

                    Travelling stateside it is way easier to charge up your vehicle than here at least where I ve been.

                    But hey let’s sit here and wait for 100 dollar oil so we can spend more than we bring in like the last time. And raise the cost of farming Lmao!!!
                    Ass backwards thinking is what we currently have. But people are making good money on it.
                    Not quite sure why you are arguing with me that cheaper energy is good for economic growth and productivity? We are both on the same page here. Perhaps you should take that argument up with Chuck instead. He might actually listen to you.

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