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    #37
    So now finding that many of those that get this and don’t die do not recover fully in fact other problems linger on.

    What a gamble the USA is playing expecting 100,000 cases a day possibly???

    The only social and financial distancing may be that other countries that are banning travel and looking at trade as well with the USA. Ironically the open may cost more than not. Looks like it anyway.

    We shouldn’t be allowing travel there otherwise we re going to be screwed in a month

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      #38
      I thought closing borders would not help in fact weren’t we told it could make it worse. The only thing that saved us so far from this virus is population density. USA will be better equipped to come out of this in the end because they will have herd immunity built up or medical experience. Besides if this virus wipes them out do you really think Canada survives? I personally think we had all better be pulling for the USA because without them there is no Canada.

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        #39
        Originally posted by RTK View Post
        I thought closing borders would not help in fact weren’t we told it could make it worse. The only thing that saved us so far from this virus is population density. USA will be better equipped to come out of this in the end because they will have herd immunity built up or medical experience. Besides if this virus wipes them out do you really think Canada survives? I personally think we had all better be pulling for the USA because without them there is no Canada.
        How do you get herd immunity when people are getting it again and again?

        Of course pulling for the USA but they’re out of control and doing it to themselves trump will wipe quarter of a million people by December easily with no vaccine
        Can’t blame China which is a joke now also since trump the fool is now saying the virus is nothing then why was he blaming China for his collapsed economy?

        But maybe the Russian army can save the USA they’ve paid people to kill Americans and trump doesn’t give a shit about it.

        Absolutely we can save ourselves without the USA in fact there will be opportunity but not if we re fkd as much as they are. But there is no brains in our government either just an eagerness to open things up for the election.

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          #40


          UK numbers, seems the healthcare professionals are doing their job and solving the riddle. Lots more data here on how they are figuring it out. California is as well.

          https://twitter.com/Trinhnomics/status/1277819144449089536?s=20

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            #41
            If there is no immunity being built, shut the world down civilization is done... come on you actually think that immune systems will not respond this virus. You get a response, the problem appears that response in some is too active. I am no doctor so no sense trying to profess I understand how the immune system works, but I think reinfection is not going to be a massive problem. Seems things tend to settle down over time in hot spots.

            As for the USA, yes we can step up and find some opportunities, but I suggest we make sure we are considering their welfare as well. Would you try and rent or buy land out from under a neighbour who was just told he had cancer and needs treatment or are you offering to seed some of his crop for him and helping him get through his treatments.

            And yes if the USA goes down in a blaze of glory, Canada is done period. There is no Canada without the USA to protect us... some of us might have the will but our 22’s, Quad tracks and spray planes aren’t automatic weapons, tanks and planes. Russia, China would steam roll us without even needing to use their military, the threat alone would cause us to retreat.

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              #42
              https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/swedish-covid-expert-says-the-world-still-doesnt-understand/wcm/26b6484b-7a22-4087-9dac-f2041ce3e22e/ https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/swedish-covid-expert-says-the-world-still-doesnt-understand/wcm/26b6484b-7a22-4087-9dac-f2041ce3e22e/

              Directly from someone who spent time alongside a Swedish epidemiologist - the severity is decreasing, the decline is expected to continue through summer, and then more severe again in the fall.

              If the CCP disease and its effects should take 2 to 3 years to sort itself out worldwide, Sweden's survivors will be miles ahead of the pack since they will not have suffered from the devastating collateral damages that locked-down countries are experiencing.

              Nor will they have to rebuild a shattered economy.

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                #43
                Originally posted by RTK View Post
                If there is no immunity being built, shut the world down civilization is done... come on you actually think that immune systems will not respond this virus. You get a response, the problem appears that response in some is too active. I am no doctor so no sense trying to profess I understand how the immune system works, but I think reinfection is not going to be a massive problem. Seems things tend to settle down over time in hot spots.

                As for the USA, yes we can step up and find some opportunities, but I suggest we make sure we are considering their welfare as well. Would you try and rent or buy land out from under a neighbour who was just told he had cancer and needs treatment or are you offering to seed some of his crop for him and helping him get through his treatments.

                And yes if the USA goes down in a blaze of glory, Canada is done period. There is no Canada without the USA to protect us... some of us might have the will but our 22’s, Quad tracks and spray planes aren’t automatic weapons, tanks and planes. Russia, China would steam roll us without even needing to use their military, the threat alone would cause us to retreat.

                Haven’t been listening to what I m saying I guess. Open business in ways that are most safest. Don’t be opening up parties and picking magical numbers for groups to be safe out of thin air that aren’t necessary. You could have a thousand people outside safely distanced in a group and 10 not safe by the way they are grouped there is no direction to this.
                1 person at a time in a store but an airliner can seat you side by side? That’s brilliant.

                The current USA leader wants to destroy all his allies including us simply because he may have been emberrassed by our leader. Lmao there isn’t a country in the world I bet that hasn’t emberrassed him since he does it all by himself the shmuck. Until they have someone that hasn’t got that Agenda hope them well but look after ourselves.
                And in the extreme they aren’t going to disappear there are enough sane people there that won’t happen. But they will be set back greatly as other countries basically are quarantining the entire USA. What a moron to let that happen.

                With trump the Russians and Chinese are already steamrolling us and have been since day one of his presidency. Why hasn’t he said a word of condemnation over the Russians paying to
                Have USA troups murdered? Because in his pea brained intelligence he s worried about the pee pee on the prostitute video. Lmao what a disgrace.
                He needs Vladimir to rig the vote machines !!

                If we want to open up as we are here without more we’ll thought out direction we must shut down the border.

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                  #44
                  Sweden has announced it will form a commission to evaluate its response to the novel coronavirus.

                  More than 5,300 Swedes have died compared to around 250 in Norway, 600 in Denmark and 325 in Finland, all of which have populations around half the size.

                  Sweden, unlike the rest of Scandinavia, chose not to close schools and businesses to fight the spread of the virus.

                  A group of people use outdoor gym equipment in a park in Sweden during the coronavirus pandemic
                  Criticism of Sweden's decision to let its citizens take responsibility for not spreading the virus has prompted a review.(Reuters)
                  "It is not a question of whether Sweden is going to change as a result of this — the question is how," Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said.

                  Sweden's toll is still lower than in some European countries, such as Britain, which has one of the worst death rates in the world.

                  Criticism in Sweden has focused mainly on the death toll among elderly residents of care homes — who make up the majority of deaths from the virus — and the late start to widespread testing.


                  PS just passing it on. No idea anymore what’s right Or wrong pathway foward.
                  Last edited by malleefarmer; Jul 1, 2020, 05:17.

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