Give em credit for thinking outside the box

[parsley]

Incognito,

One more thing. Turn on your TV tonight and cross your fingers that Sheila Copps wins, because if she does, she'll earn a spot on the New Cabinet.

Now Minister of Finance would be a little difficult seeingst she can only divide.

So, A special portfolio as Ministeria in Waiting to Steamship CWB holds promise..

She can liase with the Labor Unions and save the CWB strike time dollars. Look at the millions we'll save. She'll simply double their wages with half paid by the CWB, and strikes at the longshoremen's annual shakedown will become a longing for the past.

Now , you've come up with this thinking outside the box topic, so I think it is fair that you become her main man. You get to work with her every day, you get to plan and cruise ships with Tequila Sheila.

This is a real Board kind of planning venture. Expensive, downloading, keeps the Liberals happy, makes the Americans envious for our glitz, and gets the Board into shipping which is a billion dollar business that the Federal Development Bank will drool for. The commissions, oh the commissions.

Better grab this fast or Gaggliano is going to grab it from under your farmy nose.

Are you up for it?

Parsley

[pillypillsner]

Ill give you outside the box
-the cwb only marginally affects global grain prices
-all commodities have been artificially
suppressed and the cwb is a small part of this mechanism
-think back to the 70's and early 80's
when prices were rising
-why did oil,grains and base metals all fall together later on
-why are they all rising together now
-why is a barrel of coke a cola worth
178$ american and oil worth 37$(and rising i might add)
-time out some of you will be saying its
just those damn chinese and thats why there is a commodities bull market.well in my opinion this is only partially correct.there are major goings on in the currency,bond and commodities markets.
-think of the numbers(I KNOW THIS PART IS HARD)
-7 trillion debt
-45 trillion unfunded liabilities
-500 defficits
-500 current account defficits
-euro(wow)
-oil(wow)
-soy(wow)
-scrap steel(wow)
-copper(wow)
-spring wheat&durum(i hope soo!!havent contracted anything yet-04?-05?
maybe-tough for the cwb to hurt you when you market year to year)

-it would take me awhile to properly explain myself.i am a full time farmer and part time commodity trader and i have put my money with my big mouth.the risks and the unknowens are great.has anyone noticed the volitility in the currencies?
-when oil hits 50$ a barrel maybe some of you will take me more seriously
-dont any of you sense something wrong?

[boone]

pillypillsner: In keeping with the Titanic motif here, did you happen to see Captain Ken Ritter hollering out that he was, "KING OF THE WORLD"! Or First mate Measner proclaiming, It is unsinkable, God himself could not sink this ship. (sorry I missed this afternoon goings on, it looked like fun) anyway what are you saying inflation for inflations sake or??????

[TOM4CWB]

Pilly;

How can the US$ do anything but sink...

I am so confused...

The world rotates around the US$$'s...

I thought the end game was up long ago... but we still keep on printing those greenbacks... deflation instead of inflation...

I am so confused...

What exactly is money anyway pilly?

Isn't it just a number on a computer somewhere...

we lend more so we can create more...

so we can pay more...

that hasn't been created yet to pay the interest charges...

on the loans we took out when?

Just like the CWB churning billions... to make us a few millions... all on bad loans that don't really exist... because nobody really ever expects to pay em off anyway... we will simply be expected to write them off.

Do you ever expect the Canadian government to pay off the Canadian $500 plus billion debt... think about that for a second...

SO here we are back to "thinking outside the box"...

I like people who think outside the box, even the folks at the CWB!

Please, allow me the opportunity to JUST SAY NO. I don't agree with you, I want to fire you today...

If you show prudent management in the future... THEN I may want to see if they are honest truthful changes... then I may...

But my CFO says NO NO NO.

I am so confused....

[parsley]

boone,

Looks like Tequila Sheila is overboard, too. Measner can't swim. So, you're it for mouth to mouth! And I'm not so sure that you'd like that.

frustrated 1, You can bet there was Martin's non-involvement in Sheila's campaign just the same as there was Martin's non-involvement in CWB ships. Is the contingency fund big enough to buy a ship now?


pillpillypillsner..don't be so subtle. Spit it out. what's your hunch?

Parsley

[pillypillsner]

It is my opinion that the u.s. is in a box.It has to inflate or default.It has to create money to keep the game going.
The "dollar" is the worlds reserve currency so it has been able to inflate
without many of the inflationary pressures that are suppose to occur when a government dilutes its money.Money is a medium of exchange.Inflation is the mother of all evils.Before 1913 the price of a loaf of
bread stayed the same for the previous 200 years.Since 1913 it and everything else has increased by over a factor of
10x.Most of this inflation has come after 1973.These dates are important including 1933.Does anyone have money tied up in a bond or savings account paying dirt interest?Well the fact of the matter is your LOSING money inflation is running far ahead of the intersest your being paid(your money will buy less in the future).I know most
people dont believe what i say(my own family gives me nothing but blank stares)but the 10% return i have made my wife on her rrsp in just 3 weeks makes me think i will stick to my guns.
I wish I could make a 10% return farming
but things have been tough as everyone on this forum would probably agree.Have you ever converted how many pounds of grain it takes to purchase other goods and services.Lets pick on lawyers.40$ for a phone call-10 bushels-600 pounds of grain?Dentists?-I reliaze that these people are important and deserve a fair wage but these bastards do things like
implement very small university quotas to keep their proffesions small and expensive.Sorry to go of on a tangent.
Anyways as long as the u.s.and a lot of other countries like japan(who is in deeep trouble)continue to print wealth commodities should rise.If there is a crash and demand is killed all bets are off.If the u.s. takes steps to fix its imbalances the trend in commodities might reverse.

P.S-all debt has to be accounted for and paid on otherwise complete chaos.

[parsley]

A few things to add

1.The USA has an economic engine that is simply astounding, that can crank out an astounding amount of wealth. Based on manufacturing We have none.

2. USA has big population/work force

3 A lot of World debt is owed to the USA. If they call their Canadian loans, who worrries?

4. We have a lot of Inflation in Canada, but you are told there is essentially no inflation.

5. We have a general deflation of the dollar in Canada.take out a few blips.

6.Our government is corrupt.

7. Government is the major player in Canadian life.

Parsley