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    Give em credit for thinking outside the box

    Canadian Wheat Board mulls leasing ocean vessels (REUTERS)

    "The Canadian Wheat Board is mulling over leasing ocean vessels and developing other long-term freight agreements, senior officials told farmers at a series of meetings over the past month."

    Canada (I dont take government contract money) Steamship Lines and PM squared - PM PM (Paul Martin) will be impressed.

    #2
    Aside from the square PM's "non involvment" in the Steamship Lines, I like the thought train. I certainly agree the CWB should have a pat on the back for such consideration. Unless, of course, it was initiated from Canada Steamship Lines. No, that couldn't possibly happen.

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      #3
      If we are allowed market choice... the CWB can rent the space shuttle and deliver wheat to the moon for all I care.

      But until someone can give strong evidence of proper risk management, fair cash pricing,...

      reasonable spreads between grades and classes of CWB grains,...

      why would you have them mess around in something else?

      Is managing ocean liners now a specialty of the CWB? Knowing how things operate at the CWB, they will end up booking boats long term at the most expensive freight market in history!

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        #4
        Tom4cwb:Relax Tom the Titanic has already sailed, and most of the icebergs are in Washington.

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          #5
          I am so excited because here is an investment of a lifetime. Hopefully Tricycle will issue 'ship future' notes.

          Farmers can send them millions.

          The CWB will attend a Liberal Fundraiser so they can meet with Paul Martin(they might even get introduced to the Minister of the CWB!), and form a "quasi" partnership.

          The farmer/Tricycle notes can fund the Canadian shipping arm of CWB/Martin's and pay taxes because we are patriotic, and Martin can finance his half with money from the Federal Business Development Bank.

          The CWB organic manager Donna Youngdahle that I hear doesn't market organic grain can become the new Shipper Manager.

          Ships coming and going and we can start taking on potash and oil and silk.

          Well, I'm on my way to the bank. Demurrage holidays, here we come!!!

          Oh, we have a Captain Ritter, won't he fit the part?

          Who's the pirate, though?

          Parsley

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            #6
            Boone;

            You are sure right about the Titanic sailing....

            I heard a rumor that part of the Titanic is in Canada... Winnipeg to be specific!


            PLEASE let me off!


            Obviously the CWB sees the need for expanding its boat fleet....

            432 Main in Winnipeg obviously needs more deck chairs...

            Please do not ask me to pay for them and ride with you...again!

            I am seasick and want off the boat!

            You and Incognito are welcome to bask in the sunlight of the CWB's radiant performance...

            Remember these are the folks that take no responsibility for any mistakes... and depend or our money to do everything... without being accountable to anyone who cares, or could stop this insanity.

            Please, just give me the choice to avoid this disaster!

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              #7
              LOL...so much for a balanced approach.

              Tom: please look for anywhere I've posted that the CWB was doing an admirable job marketing.

              Boone and I will be both hanging from a tree on Wellington Cr and my right wing friends are jumping off the ship. Geez.

              Let me tell you this: To be recognized in Ottawa or Washington, you need to have balance. The left-wing nuts and the far right get discounted. And I am far from a Liberal. In the farm policy debate, you can have a hidden agenda, but you better move to the center to get heard.

              Just ask Colin Carter, Hubert Esquirol, Nettie Wiebe et al.

              I'm sure Beswick told you the same, Tom.

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                #8
                Incognito;

                This is exactly why the CWB chooses to fail.

                Take benchmarkeing CWB performance for example.

                Huge expense was ignored... when benchmarking proved the CWB did a rotten job, and the info gained was covered up and trashed.

                This is not honest, fair, or defensible.

                I asked at the Carsland "CWB Corporate Accountability Mtg." what happened to the benchmarking studies.

                "We report to the directors" was the answer when I asked about why the results were not in the 02-03 annual report. Ward refused to even talk about the price benchmarking study... which he knew the question was about.

                I have though long and hard about the "balance" issue as you have called it!

                If you are in a tug -of- war, with an opposition force, do you drop the rope and run around to help your opponent?

                We are in a fight for the survival of many younger farmers... who need to be up to speed in 10 years (with marketing especially) to do a good job of farming when older folks can't work on the farm anymore.

                The CWB has done a huge disservice and un told damage to our rural ag communities by it's communist retoric. CWB/Goodale's enforcment of anachy that drives innovation and creative thinking... out of our communities...,

                Instead they drive fear, hate, and poverty into our communities.

                I will never thank Goodale for doing this, and neither did Ken Beswick.

                By the way, where did being "politically correct" ever get me?

                In reality...

                a warm feeling for a few moments...

                Just in time to realise that everyone from everwhere was *raping and *pitting on me... and when everythig cooled off after, I was a sorry stinking freezing mess!!!!

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                  #9
                  Come on Incognito, let's have a little sport. Think about this one:


                  The 2005 Accountability Meetings on The Steamship CWB, with suppers served to all farmers. 60 thousand or so Albertans, 50T or so from Saskatchewan and 40T or so from Manitoba.

                  Menu a la carte

                  Striped Bass fresh from the ocean. We can be flown in on those new Government jets that that last delightful Liberal Prime Minister bought. Say, groups of 50 at a time.

                  How many can we seat on this ship?

                  rbrower, you'd better change your vacationing plans for next year, so we can meet on the old Ship WheatBoard, and put our feet up and watch the money flow.

                  Parsley

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                    #10
                    u guys crack me up...LOL

                    thanks for making my afternoon at the office enjoyable...and i do mean that

                    Long day when you cant laugh

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                      #11
                      Tom: leave your real email addy.

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                        #12
                        Incognito;

                        If you live in Sask or Alta, call me toll free @ 1TOMTOM4CWB!

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                          #13
                          Incognito,

                          One more thing. Turn on your TV tonight and cross your fingers that Sheila Copps wins, because if she does, she'll earn a spot on the New Cabinet.

                          Now Minister of Finance would be a little difficult seeingst she can only divide.

                          So, A special portfolio as Ministeria in Waiting to Steamship CWB holds promise..

                          She can liase with the Labor Unions and save the CWB strike time dollars. Look at the millions we'll save. She'll simply double their wages with half paid by the CWB, and strikes at the longshoremen's annual shakedown will become a longing for the past.

                          Now , you've come up with this thinking outside the box topic, so I think it is fair that you become her main man. You get to work with her every day, you get to plan and cruise ships with Tequila Sheila.

                          This is a real Board kind of planning venture. Expensive, downloading, keeps the Liberals happy, makes the Americans envious for our glitz, and gets the Board into shipping which is a billion dollar business that the Federal Development Bank will drool for. The commissions, oh the commissions.

                          Better grab this fast or Gaggliano is going to grab it from under your farmy nose.

                          Are you up for it?

                          Parsley

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                            #14
                            Ill give you outside the box
                            -the cwb only marginally affects global grain prices
                            -all commodities have been artificially
                            suppressed and the cwb is a small part of this mechanism
                            -think back to the 70's and early 80's
                            when prices were rising
                            -why did oil,grains and base metals all fall together later on
                            -why are they all rising together now
                            -why is a barrel of coke a cola worth
                            178$ american and oil worth 37$(and rising i might add)
                            -time out some of you will be saying its
                            just those damn chinese and thats why there is a commodities bull market.well in my opinion this is only partially correct.there are major goings on in the currency,bond and commodities markets.
                            -think of the numbers(I KNOW THIS PART IS HARD)
                            -7 trillion debt
                            -45 trillion unfunded liabilities
                            -500 defficits
                            -500 current account defficits
                            -euro(wow)
                            -oil(wow)
                            -soy(wow)
                            -scrap steel(wow)
                            -copper(wow)
                            -spring wheat&durum(i hope soo!!havent contracted anything yet-04?-05?
                            maybe-tough for the cwb to hurt you when you market year to year)

                            -it would take me awhile to properly explain myself.i am a full time farmer and part time commodity trader and i have put my money with my big mouth.the risks and the unknowens are great.has anyone noticed the volitility in the currencies?
                            -when oil hits 50$ a barrel maybe some of you will take me more seriously
                            -dont any of you sense something wrong?

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                              #15
                              pillypillsner: In keeping with the Titanic motif here, did you happen to see Captain Ken Ritter hollering out that he was, "KING OF THE WORLD"! Or First mate Measner proclaiming, It is unsinkable, God himself could not sink this ship. (sorry I missed this afternoon goings on, it looked like fun) anyway what are you saying inflation for inflations sake or??????

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