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    #11
    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
    So if something doesn’t evolve as we do, it doesn’t evolve?

    Oh dear.

    Viruses carry genetic information, they reproduce and they are subject to natural selection, just as any other organism that evolves. Whether you call it evolution or mutation is rather irrelevant. A virus has one goal and that is to reproduce. In order to successfully reproduce, they must find new hosts. If a host develops antigens that inhibit the virus’ survival and reproduction that does not mean the virus dies off existence. If a mutation occurs that allows it to bypass antigens in some way so that it can once again survive and reproduce, then that mutation is going to most likely be highly successful. This is the process of evolution.

    The fact that you can’t think of viruses that have managed this evolution does not mean they can’t.
    Viruses do not look for new hosts. They cant do that. They rely on you and I to spread it. And their goal is not to just reproduce and overwhelm their host because that would kill them too which would go against self preservation if they have any.

    Their goal is to achieve stasis with their host. That involves an initial virulent phase which eventually attenuates. The virus actually weakens with mutations.

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      #12
      Jazz your math is still wrong.
      Mine too , actually you were out 2
      Decimal places.not 1.
      AGAIN , lets use your new # which
      Is 10 times what you said at first.
      If the entire US population was infected.
      Your % says there would be 416,000 deaths total.
      You are already at 130,000 deaths with
      10 million infected out of 320 million population.
      32 x130,000 is a long way from 400,000.
      And you still don't get it.

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        #13
        Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
        Jazz your math is still wrong.
        Mine too , actually you were out 2
        Decimal places.not 1.
        AGAIN , lets use your new # which
        Is 10 times what you said at first.
        If the entire US population was infected.
        Your % says there would be 416,000 deaths total.
        You are already at 130,000 deaths with
        10 million infected out of 320 million population.
        32 x130,000 is a long way from 400,000.
        And you still don't get it.
        10 million infected already?

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          #14
          Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
          And you still don't get it.
          Sawfly, covid and covid related. Big difference in the death totals. Semantics matter.

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              #16
              Last edited by biglentil; Jul 7, 2020, 20:03.

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                #17
                Sorry too many numbers , where I got
                10 million infected.
                So 3 times worse yet

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                  #18
                  Speaking of math, how do you guys reconcile the US with 4.5% of the world population has 29% of the worlds cases and 23% of the deaths. Because CNN says so?

                  Funny how that little virus just ignored the laws of physics and skipped over africa and india forgot about a 2nd wave in china and just went where trump was. Even better its going to 3 critical swing states, TX,AZ and FL. Amazing coincidence.

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                    #19
                    Either way..... this thing is going to have to run it's course.

                    Which means more dead people.

                    I guess it's only catastrophic if someone in your life who you dearly love dies.

                    Everyone else and people you don't know are indespensible. NIMBY. ......even if they had an underlying condition but could live years had they not contracted Covid-19.

                    Did we have to shut down to prolong the inevitable? I don't know.

                    Isn't the first and sure as hell isn't going to be the last pandemic.

                    It's what we learn from past and current episodes, and if that knowledge can or can't be applied to the new pandemic is yet to be determined.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by farmaholic View Post

                      Isn't the first and sure as hell isn't going to be the last pandemic.

                      .
                      Well Canada is running more than 100 suicides, homicides and overdoses per day since the lockdown started. That's well above our corona deaths. Should we worry about that?

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