Florida hospital admits its COVID positivity rate is 10x lower than first reported

[ajl]

Trump will lose the election over this.

That will do far more damage than the covid itself. The US was the only major economy in the world that had any real growth until this covid thing so that is what is funding pensions for hundreds of millions around the world including much of mine. A friend of mine who is 74 now had to convert his RRSP to a RIF a couple of years ago. His investment adviser buddy consolidated his funds and invested it into: you guessed it: US dividend paying stocks. My buddy did not pay much attention to the stock market before this. If the US becomes more like canuckistan where the real economy has been shrinking for over a decade now, how is retirement being funded? Maybe people will need covid when their money runs out.

[chuckChuck]

Every downturn is an investment opportunity. Isn't that what the smart money says? LOL

Now's your chance to make serious money once this pandemic winds down in a year or 3.

[jazz]

Now's your chance to make serious money once this pandemic winds down in a year or 3.

You mean 5 months right. Cause it will all be gone one way or another. If Biden wins, it will never be spoke of again.

[Oliver88]

Chuck Norris!!!! If he couldn’t survive we’re all finished!!

How many tests are being done here? How many people have died that weren’t tested? Oh it’s a heart attack was it?

Listened to the radio 3 or 4 days ago the Prince Albert station was saying how there were so many cases and authorities are frustrated because they can’t trace where it came from. Then the next day the health authority doesn’t even mention Prince Albert?

Then yesterday the main guy admits hey there’s more cases because we re testing more in an area where we found some???
Well duuuuuh!! How many died then that you never tested?

IMO governments are making this look the way they want it to look.
But when the shit gets real
Bad even the deniers put on a mask. Which I still can’t believe we aren’t mandated to do within businesses or gatherings indoors.

Are the Florida, Texas etc hospitals and morgues just filled up for fun?

Big Wheel.....do you realize the country you live in (Canada) has a higher death rate than Texas by 2-3x and we also have a higher death rate than Florida?!

It’s time to quit listening to CBC.

[jazz]

And just like always the western provinces improving the numbers for Quebec. Alone they have the highest fatality rate in the world.

But you can do your own math.

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[tweety]

From CDC.gov
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/testing/serology-overview.html

What do your results mean?
If you test positive

A positive test result shows you may have antibodies from an infection with the virus that causes COVID-19. However, there is a chance a positive result means that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold.

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To differentiate the strains of virus from the corona family would require a costly and lengthy genetic assay. We had this done when we had our last child. Cost $5000 and took 2 months.

We just found 3M people who had a cold this winter.

You are confusing an antibody test (past infection) with a Cov2 virus test. Serology is thru a blood test, the Cov2 test is a viral swab.

The Cov2 test for Covid19 (molecular or viral antigen) uses RT-PCR, NAAT or LAMP, is not a genetic assay, and does not cost $5000.

[fjlip]

BUT BUT can it differentiate from the common COLD? Whoever you believe... still today 99% mild, what is that to panic about? Anything we do in our lives is rarely 99% benign! 8.5 million on earth recovered and not a PEEP about their situation/overcoming the virus. All MSM will ever play is the REAL DEATHLY SICK few!

[the big wheel]

BUT BUT can it differentiate from the common COLD? Whoever you believe... still today 99% mild, what is that to panic about? Anything we do in our lives is rarely 99% benign! 8.5 million on earth recovered and not a PEEP about their situation/overcoming the virus. All MSM will ever play is the REAL DEATHLY SICK few!

Yes so maybe we re counting the common cold which inflated infection but the common cold doesn’t kill you or alter the function of your body so maybe the answer is if you get it your chances of something bad are worse than what we thought.
Counting a common cold and saying see nothing happenned when it’s not actually Covid skews the danger.
Most of the people that have had it say you definately don’t want the experience.

[biglentil]

And just like always the western provinces improving the numbers for Quebec. Alone they have the highest fatality rate in the world.

But you can do your own math.

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Using total population/deaths to arrive at death rate of a novel virus infecting the population at an exponential rate is silly.

The best measure we have is the outcome method currently at a 7% death rate. Though this number likely overstates by an unknown amount due to the fraction of positive carriers of the population that remain asymptotic and do not receive testing. Estimates suggest that 1/3 of the population is asymptotic so perhaps the true death rate is in the 4 to 5% region.

[jazz]

Using total population/deaths to arrive at death rate of a novel virus infecting the population at an exponential rate is silly.

Ok, where in the following cdc chart would you like to stick it?

Not even making the top 15 yet after 6 months. Remember this is novel and easily identifiable by testing and ICU accounts so it cant be lumped into #4 and #15.

You are confusing an antibody test (past infection) with a Cov2 virus test. Serology is thru a blood test, the Cov2 test is a viral swab.

I look forward to the cdc clearing up that little misnomer on their website as well as the actual lab verified data following the field tests and then someone, perhaps Faucci, addressing the skyrocketing asymptotic cases and plummeting death rates.

[farming101]

US deaths attributed to covid-19: 142,861. Places it at #6.

US excess deaths in 2020: 149,200

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441 https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441

[jazz]

US deaths attributed to covid-19: 142,861. Places it at #6.

Nope, you don't get to play that game. That cdc chart is tracking pure deaths from each category. Not related or attributed. Hypertension is related to heart conditions so is diabetes, reported and tracked separately. That's like counting suicides who have high blood pressure.

Give me the pure covid deaths ex any other condition and then rank it.

[farming101]

It was known from the start that covid-19 was especially deadly to those with an underlying health condition.

Yes they are sick, yes they are elderly, but their demise has been brought forward and caused hundreds of thousands of excess deaths.
And to emphasize, no one is home free if they get this.
Here is an article already a month old. Where ya been man..
https://calgaryherald.com/news/one-third-of-alberta-icu-admission-had-no-preexisting-conditions-ahs-data https://calgaryherald.com/news/one-third-of-alberta-icu-admission-had-no-preexisting-conditions-ahs-data

[jazz]

It was known from the start that covid-19 was especially deadly to those with an underlying health condition.

Well so is the regular flu, did you wear a mask or shut down your business and quarantine yourself last winter. There is a shot for pneumonia, did you take it? Did anybody you know get it? Still 2.5M pneumonia deaths world wide with a working vaccine.

Look at the cdc data, heart conditions, cancer dominate that chart. I still see people smoking.

To have an appropriate response to any situation, you need proper data, not a bunch of pseudo stats all blended in and then reported with breathless hysteria on the tv ticker.

The San Diego docs are the only ones who went back and autopsied and found only 6 people out of 293 deaths could be fully attributed to covid.

[farming101]

I think the death rate will go down. Way more people have been exposed to the virus and have not been tested and have recovered or didn't even get sick.
For a relatively healthy population you can likely look to a country like South Korea. 2.14% of cases have resulted in death.
In Canada deaths are running at 8% of cases. Got in to the seniors population in Quebec. As testing continues the rate of death will drop. Older folks will be cautious.
The issue is it is quite infectious. The risk of it spreading to older ones will be there for the foreseeable future.

Bottom line, you do not want to get a full blown case of this https://globalnews.ca/news/7111094/coronavirus-scientists-health-problems/ https://globalnews.ca/news/7111094/coronavirus-scientists-health-problems/
and you do not want to spread it around if you do.

And yes, everyone dies sooner or later. But as you inferred, I think, when you mentioned smoking and the risk of heath problems, people take risks all the time that can endanger their health or life. I can avoid cigarette smoke but I have a harder time avoiding a virus I can't see.
As we age we start to fall apart, then an illness comes along and takes us out. Happens all the time. The health care system is set up to deal with an expected level of death. It is the excess deaths resulting from an infectious disease that is the issue