Morneau's .." i made a mistake " ....

[furrowtickler]

I am not sure what you want someone to dispute. If you are talking salary, that is disputable seeing as the base salary for the PM of Canada is $175,000 and with sessional top ups Trudeau makes $351,000/year, not 400,000 Jazz claims.

Or given your TDS addition to you comment, are you asking someone to dispute Jazz's insinuation that Trump is giving more than he is getting? That is easy to dispute seeing as his personal Trump foundations has been fined numerous times for his use of foundation funds for personal use. Worst case was 2.8 million collected in a fund raiser for vets was funneled into his campaign and he was found guilty in court of misuse of the foundation funds. Not only was a 2 million fine imposed but the foundation was ordered to be closed and his entire family has to taking training to learn charity rules.

And while he may not be earning a salary from the public purse, how about his insistence secret service and other staff say in hotels he owns and pays inflated rates for rooms food and services thereby enriching himself well beyond what his salary would cost the public?

Off the top of my head, I can think of the Trump University fiasco which resulted in 25 million in fines, of the fines imposed by the NY gaming for breaking casino and stock ownership rules, of failures to pay workers and the list of corruption goes on

So if you are comparing Trudeau to Trump, one is not good and one bad; they are both bending the rules and benefiting personally from office. The sad part is your thinking that it is only a Trudeau problem. The graft in politics runs much deeper than one person and will not be corrected by the WE controversy or a resignation by Trudeau as proved by Trump being repeatedly found guilty in court and fined, yet still carries a similar percentage of support as does Trudeau.

This is a liberal problem, Trudeau just a puppet ... that’s the sad part most don’t get

[dmlfarmer]

This is a liberal problem, Trudeau just a puppet ... that’s the sad part most don’t get

No, it is a political problem, no matter left or right. Trump is R, a supposedly right wing party. The Conservatives have had their share of scandals too. Adscam, Airbus affair, Duffy, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[Sheepwheat]

No, it is a political problem, no matter left or right. Trump is R, a supposedly right wing party. The Conservatives have had their share of scandals too. Adscam, Airbus affair, Duffy, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Adscam? That was the liberals. Duffy, money was paid back, Duffy shunned by cons, Nigel Wright steps aside. Airbus affair. Too little too late. This is the here and now.

It IS MOST CERTAINLY A LIBERAL PROBLEM. Do get up to speed... no government prior, including the crooked Chrétien and his cohorts, even comes close to this one. Like, not even the same planet close.

A for trump, last time I checked he was not running in Canada, nor holding our purse strings, stealing our money and giving it to dubious causes.

The scariest thing? This is just the tip of the iceberg, what is there we do not even know yet? My guess is a bloody LOT.

[jazz]

No, it is a political problem, no matter left or right. Trump is R, a supposedly right wing party. The Conservatives have had their share of scandals too. Adscam, Airbus affair, Duffy, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Enlighten us dml were any tax payer funds funnelled into trumps charity?

Now you know the difference.

[Sheepwheat]

Enlighten us dml were any tax payer funds funnelled into trumps charity?

Now you know the difference.

Canadian taxpayer funds, you forgot to ask.

But, but Harper, and but, but the 1980’s, and but , but trump, well, that is getting old. This is the here and now.

Had Harper done this, I most certainly would have not continued supporting him. The frightening thing is, in spite of the firing when he suddenly wasn’t a drama teacher, the Kokanee grope, the Norman affair, Lavscam, Ava khan, India trip, and on and on it goes, there are ppl that actually defend this clown and his band of merry men, and lots of them. It is just unreal.

[newguy]

Canadian taxpayer funds, you forgot to ask.

But, but Harper, and but, but the 1980’s, and but , but trump, well, that is getting old. This is the here and now.

Had Harper done this, I most certainly would have not continued supporting him. The frightening thing is, in spite of the firing when he suddenly wasn’t a drama teacher, the Kokanee grope, the Norman affair, Lavscam, Ava khan, India trip, and on and on it goes, there are ppl that actually defend this clown and his band of merry men, and lots of them. It is just unreal.

Harper spent 750 million advertising programs but were actually advertising his conservative party.All public money.Only reason Scheer never got into deep trouble by trying to pay for his kids private school is that he took the money from the party he would end up embarrassing.If it was any other organization he would have had charges.Who knows what Bill Boyd got from his landlord? A big discount to purchace his land would never show up anywhere.

[sumdumguy]

You are spot on Newguy. Corruption is criminal and politicians should be charged as such. Influence pedalling, funneling into bogus charities, subversion as in the press. Criminal activity is rampant but why are these thieves paying it back?

[bucket]

Harper spent 750 million advertising programs but were actually advertising his conservative party.All public money.Only reason Scheer never got into deep trouble by trying to pay for his kids private school is that he took the money from the party he would end up embarrassing.If it was any other organization he would have had charges.Who knows what Bill Boyd got from his landlord? A big discount to purchace his land would never show up anywhere.

Bill boyd got his irrigation project paid for. Interestingly he had to cross the unknown landlords land to get it developed....the same landlord that made a few bucks on the GTH....

the opposition couldn't connect the dots.

[fjlip]

Wouldn't be just perfect if a French Revolution type thing took all these FILTHY RICH bastards out! That is the reset society needs. However they are BRIBING the poor, unlike the poor French that eliminated the RICH, heads and all! So honest working people have to take these CROOKS out?

[newguy]

That is why a political correction is so important every few years to clean out the people that start using the system.Countries that can do that end up with really corrupt governments.

[rumrocks]

This episode of Seinfeld where George turns a selfish blunder into why the seniors should thank him for what he truly believes, saving their lives.

There are similarities to the liberal's pattern when caught in a gaffe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuP9YClyPRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuP9YClyPRY

[LEP]

Bill boyd got his irrigation project paid for. Interestingly he had to cross the unknown landlords land to get it developed....the same landlord that made a few bucks on the GTH....

the opposition couldn't connect the dots.

What you say makes interesting gossip but it is all wrong.

I am not defending Boyd. I worked to try to get him booted out during his nomination.

[furrowtickler]

This is 10x worse than Harper or any other federal politician in recent memo
Who cares about Trump already
And yes we all know Bill Boyd was a sleazy bugger , we have all said that
This about today , here in Canada .
Not yesterday or 10-15-20 years ago or remotely about trumps stupid ramblings ...
Trudeau is a fricken disaster for Canada and our kids / grandchildren .. period
Quit the deflection constantly..... wow

[burnt]

The whole Liberal Party is comprised of crooks. Bought and paid for by ....?

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"I absolutely stand by him": Liberal MP @vankayak
says he has "100% faith" in Finance Minister Bill Morneau.

Conservatives are calling on the finance minister to resign following revelations of expenses owed to the WE Charity for two trips in 2017.

[the big wheel]

This is 10x worse than Harper or any other federal politician in recent memo
Who cares about Trump already
And yes we all know Bill Boyd was a sleazy bugger , we have all said that
This about today , here in Canada .
Not yesterday or 10-15-20 years ago or remotely about trumps stupid ramblings ...
Trudeau is a fricken disaster for Canada and our kids / grandchildren .. period
Quit the deflection constantly..... wow

If you look at the posts usually it’s the pro trump gang bringing up the comparison. When I post it’s not a distraction I have enough brains to handle more than one conversation maybe some don’t???? Has their been a more morally bankrupt politician than trump? No!!! I guess financially as well!!!