Trump Tarriff

[the big wheel]

Canada and the US have lots of aluminum, why does Chinese product have to be snuck into the NAFTA dead and dumped on our ally. I mean we squeal and holler when US dairy finds its way here. If Minnesota started flooding Quebec with cheap milk all holy hell would break loose.

I am sorry of prices go up, but there is much more to consider here and hammering china and its lackey Canada and Trudeau takes priority.

Somebody tell me why today in the grocery store there is pork ribs originating from Germany when our pork producers don’t know where to get rid of their product? It really is cheaper to ship it overseas?????

These trade deals don’t make sense lots of times.

[jazz]

These trade deals don’t make sense lots of times.

Almost like they are being negotiated for someone other than their own citizens.

Look what trump did today. Went around the retards in congress and signed an exec order extending benefits for all Americans and suspending the payroll tax until January.

Where is our idiot who gave money to students and crony companys and his cult members while increasing the carbon tax just when the virus hit.

[the big wheel]

Almost like they are being negotiated for someone other than their own citizens.

Look what trump did today. Went around the retards in congress and signed an exec order extending benefits for all Americans and suspending the payroll tax until January.

Where is our idiot who gave money to students and crony companys and his cult members while increasing the carbon tax just when the virus hit.

That’s really good jazz but haven’t you been criticizing Truduea for spending on helping people during Covid? Lol you crack me up sometimes. So biased. Lol but keep going it’s good for a laugh.

[chuckChuck]

Hmmm... I can find comments and tweets from Trump that I think what an idiot? But I have to be honest when you look at policies and what he is trying to accomplish I can understand his logic and why he is doing what he is doing. Do I agree with him all the time... nope not a chance. But I can see some logic and reasoning that maybe different from how I would do it but I can respect him and believe the proper solution is likely in the middle ground. I would feel quite comfortable debating or arguing with him. Would Trump be my friend and buddy... nope, but I would sit down and have a drink or meal with him and enjoy the conversation - you bet.

Trudeau on the other hand I struggle to comprehend almost all of his policies, his ethics, his back stabbing, his lack of accountability. I have asked numerous times give me an example of a solid policy he has passed; I can not find one I agree with or could say yeah I can see how that is reasonable even though I disagree. Would Trudeau be my friend and buddy... nope. Here is the problem... I am not sure I could sit down and have a drink or meal with him to have a conversation. There is something really wrong with him because I honestly think if I saw him walking down the street I would struggle not to cross to the other side to avoid him. That is so out of character for me but there is something sinister about him that makes me cringe and just makes me uneasy. I do not think there is any integrity in his character.

I have never voted Liberal. Trudeau isn't the brightest politician and seems to step in it. But irrational hatred of Trudeau by western conservatives has taken on a life of its own even before SNC or WE.

Trudeau bought the TX pipeline to make sure it gets built and its under construction now. But almost everyone on Agrisilly calls him anti oil? How the f can you buy a pipeline to export oil and be called anti oil? Canada has had more success getting pipelines going than Trump. But Trudeau is still anti oil? LOL

For the hard core Conservatives any mention of climate change or any policies to reduce carbon emissions and that makes you anti jobs and anti resources sector which is absolute BS. Scott Moe has a carbon emission reduction plan and believes in climate science but he doesn't get called anti oil or a job killer.

Trudeau spends big on Covid relief and gets called irresponsible. Trump spends even bigger on Covid relief programs and all you hear is crickets from the Agrisilly crowd.

Its all "just politics" as Doug Ford said.

Almost all of the Conservative premiers across Canada have stopped playing politics and are cooperating and asking for economic relief for Covid. Even Alberta and Jason Kenney! Whaaaat? Conservatives asking for federal government handouts driving up the deficit! LOL

For the first time in many years because of the drop in the world oil price, Alberta is getting more Federal taxpayers money than they are paying into the Federal government! Alberta a have not province? How could this happen? Over reliance on a single volatile commodity perhaps? LOL

[Hamloc]

I have never voted Liberal. Trudeau isn't the brightest politician and seems to step in it. But irrational hatred of Trudeau by western conservatives has taken on a life of its own even before SNC or WE.


For the first time in many years because of the drop in the world oil price, Alberta is getting more Federal taxpayers money than they are paying into the Federal government! Alberta a have not province? How could this happen? Over reliance on a single volatile commodity perhaps? LOL

Sometimes what you have to say astounds me Chuck. First off I believe there only 4 provinces that were have provinces before Covid 19, all are certainly have not now. As for the diversification of the various provinces this Economic overview: www.wd-deco.gc.ca/eng/243.asp. This compares the 4 western provinces. I do appreciate you contributions though as all it does is reinforce my own beliefs and helps insure I will never vote NDP and constantly reminds me why I despise the political outlook of those on the left side of the political spectrum!

[macdon02]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4350910/trade-tribunal-steel-dumping-ruling/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

They are dumping into Canada, we've recognized it. Im guessing there's some Liberal funding at risk?

There's a ton of damning articles from Canadian sources in this thread


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1291815300116156423.html

And China has a very ambitious plan for Canada and the Arctic regarding mineral acquisition.



prism.ucalgary.ca/bitstream/hand…



Included in these agreements for China to purchase our mineral and refining interests in A&S and its support industries like coal and energy, is a stipulation that China can import its workers here to work the mineral mines and refining and manufacturing.


The question becomes, did the Govt of Canada buy a pipeline for Canadian oil companies or Chinese?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Sometimes what you have to say astounds me Chuck. First off I believe there only 4 provinces that were have provinces before Covid 19, all are certainly have not now. As for the diversification of the various provinces this Economic overview: www.wd-deco.gc.ca/eng/243.asp. This compares the 4 western provinces. I do appreciate you contributions though as all it does is reinforce my own beliefs and helps insure I will never vote NDP and constantly reminds me why I despise the political outlook of those on the left side of the political spectrum!

It astounds you because you don't think like a socialist/marxist. Dragging the most successful down to the level of the least successful is the goal. That is the reason Chuck is revelling in the news that Alberta is now a have not province. Easier to be jealous of anyone willing to work hard, and try to take it away, than to apply the ambition to do it yourself. This applies within families, provinces, countries etc.

[blackpowder]

I suppose the least fractious way to redistribute wealth equally, is to simply stop making it. We're going to see how that works.

[Hamloc]

I have never voted Liberal.

Its all "just politics" as Doug Ford said.

Almost all of the Conservative premiers across Canada have stopped playing politics and are cooperating and asking for economic relief

For the first time in many years because of the drop in the world oil price, Alberta is getting more Federal taxpayers money than they are paying into the Federal government! Alberta a have not province? How could this happen? Over reliance on a single volatile commodity perhaps? LOL

Chuck you didn’t respond to my last question on this maybe you will respond to this question. I was just reading that Ontario is projecting a $38.5 billion dollar deficit up from $15 billion. You seem quite happy that Alberta is a have not province and insinuated that our turn in financial fortunes was due to an over reliance on oil. What has caused an over doubling of Ontario’s projected deficit? Is their economy not diversified enough?!

[chuckChuck]

Would it have anything to do with the covid economic crisis, high unemployment, falling revenues, and increased support payments?

Why not read the Ontario budget to find out? Doug Ford should have the answers you are looking for.

Hamloc you have said Alberta should have a provincial sales tax to stabilize revenues and get away from using resource revenues for core funding. Correct?

As I pointed out many moons ago there was an article in the Glabe and Mail that said if Alberta used Saskatchewan's tax rates and system, prior to Covid, Alberta would have had a $14 billion dollar surplus instead of a deficit.

Life is really good in Saskatchewan. We have a lot of resources and a strong agriculture sector. Saskatchewan tax rates are reasonable. Many people are well off and prosperous. So why is Alberta so intent on very low taxes and unstable provincial funding based on the yo yo resource sector? Please explain.