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    #11
    Originally posted by bucket View Post
    Not really....per acre is fair...as in my example the guy that least needs it gets more per acre than the guy that actually does...

    40 bucks an acre would pay all the same bills no matter the size...
    Chuck has a size issue ...

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      #12
      Time and again the lions share of of different subsidy programs often go to larger farms who often don't need it.

      Target subsidies to small and medium sized farms who struggle to make a living so that we keep more farm families going. Let the big ones survive on their own without subsidies. Subsidizing big farms often speeds up the process of putting small farms out of business and drives up the cost of everything.

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        #13
        This is why changing governments or I put it a political correction is so important to keep governments from not getting out of hand as far as policies and inside deals.

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          #14
          Originally posted by newguy View Post
          This is why changing governments or I put it a political correction is so important to keep governments from not getting out of hand as far as policies and inside deals.
          I don't think it matters now ...the bureaucrats like Telford need to be booted as well....

          The likes of the arrogant Wernicks have to be shown the door as well...

          But I think there is a culture of entitlement now in politics...

          The MLA , MP or minister cant be held account to their files....they do or say what suits them...

          Example....not that long ago David Marit said the province didn't have the money for agrirecovery with the crop being left out for thousands of farmers....in February his letter said they were not doing any irrigation projects....now he has 4 billion to waste on 200 farmers.

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            #15
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            Time and again the lions share of of different subsidy programs often go to larger farms who often don't need it.

            Target subsidies to small and medium sized farms who struggle to make a living so that we keep more farm families going. Let the big ones survive on their own without subsidies. Subsidizing big farms often speeds up the process of putting small farms out of business and drives up the cost of everything.
            Efficiently run smaller and medium sized farms generally by far have the best balance sheets and profitability.... if they are struggling it’s their own doing or a run of bad luck .
            Actually same goes for any efficient farm regardless of size .
            Smaller farms that don’t make changes or have not kept up with tech are the ones that need help ?? No

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              #16
              Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
              Efficiently run smaller and medium sized farms generally by far have the best balance sheets and profitability.... if they are struggling it’s their own doing or a run of bad luck .
              Actually same goes for any efficient farm regardless of size .
              Smaller farms that don’t make changes or have not kept up with tech are the ones that need help ?? No
              That has been my understanding as well. The profit margin on the small and medium sized farms far exceeds the mega farms on average.

              Not sure where Chuck gets his numbers from?

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                #17
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                That has been my understanding as well. The profit margin on the small and medium sized farms far exceeds the mega farms on average.

                Not sure where Chuck gets his numbers from?
                Probably the same place as his up to 80% farmers support the CWB years ago
                Stuck in the past

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                  That has been my understanding as well. The profit margin on the small and medium sized farms far exceeds the mega farms on average.

                  Not sure where Chuck gets his numbers from?
                  If that was the case don't you think all the small and medium sized farms would be out competing the big ones for land?

                  Taxpayers are not interested in subsidizing giant corporate farms.

                  One of the best things that can happen to a smaller family farm is to make enough money to stop working off the farm. Then you can invest full time energy into what you love and in the end your farm will prosper and your life will be better. A lot of farms have been paid for with off farm income but the goal is to be independent someday and give up the off farm.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    If that was the case don't you think all the small and medium sized farms would be out competing the big ones for land?

                    Taxpayers are not interested in subsidizing giant corporate farms.

                    One of the best things that can happen to a smaller family farm is to make enough money to stop working off the farm. Then you can invest full time energy into what you love and in the end your farm will prosper and your life will be better. A lot of farms have been paid for with off farm income but the goal is to be independent someday and give up the off farm.
                    Taxpayers love subsidizing large corporations....look at Bombardier, the auto industry, the plant protein industry ...all on government intravenous drips for money forever...

                    Government policy has been making farms larger for quite a awhile now ....the conservatives listen to the WCWGA who has policy to consolidate farms.....and the liberals listen to the investors that make farmers peasants....

                    Its a no win....for farmers under 5000 acres...FCC solution to a hiccup right now is to tell farmers to sell a junk of land...to a larger farmer that they are backing...its a between the lines conversation...but they are facilitating that process when they can.
                    Last edited by bucket; Aug 10, 2020, 06:43.

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