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    #71
    Originally posted by tweety View Post
    For the 6th time, it is not intended to replace, why is that so hard to understand? Why all or nothing? That is ridiculous.

    Why don't you sell your grain with the price of the grain line item (1$) and a line item for your fixed costs ($5.50) that don't change no matter the price of grain? Where those fixed costs are set by a regulatory board made up by farmers and a friendly well padded government committee? Your fixed costs are fixed just like the utility.

    Many other industries with immense infrastructures don't have that legislative luxury, yet survive just fine by charging based on use.

    This is effectively what the electrical industry is doing, if the change was made, your bill wouldn't change unless you started using less power. At which point the utility would charge more to its existing customers who would then consider other forms of power which would spur on more research and development. That is how a free open market works, i am puzzled why you are so against a functional competitive market.

    For a bunch of capitalists, you guys sure like the wheat board style true monopolistic electrical model and joyfully enjoy getting screwed.
    Man do you go off on tangents. My whole point is build solar if you want but if you are still connected to the grid expect a bill. Whether you use power or not.

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      #72
      Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
      Maybe he is using his CERB to pay for solar. Much faster pay-back.
      😂 CERB has a better ROI than solar.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        I would have thought that would be easy for you to answer as you stated it would take 10 years to pay for the system and the cost per kWh for the lifetime of the system was 8 cents a kWh. It should be simple. As for CEBA and CERB didn’t apply for either!
        Good, a man of principle! I didn't apply for CEBA and CERB isn't for full time farmers.

        How's your Agri Invest account? Have you taken out the matching taxpayers deposits? Or are you sitting on it untill retirement?

        Harvest is a priority don't you think?

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          #74
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Good, a man of principle! I didn't apply for CEBA and CERB isn't for full time farmers.

          How's your Agri Invest account? Have you taken out the matching taxpayers deposits? Or are you sitting on it untill retirement?

          Harvest is a priority don't you think?
          So let me get this straight your so busy you can’t take 3 minutes to tell us whether your system is a ground mount or roof mount, the cost per installed watt, what you are payed per kWh for what you sell to the grid and how much of the installation cost was subsidized by government?

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            #75
            Originally posted by LEP View Post
            Man do you go off on tangents. My whole point is build solar if you want but if you are still connected to the grid expect a bill. Whether you use power or not.
            But the problem is the bill isn't based on use. That is unfair, legislated so. Plain and simple and needs to be changed in order for the innovation and development to occur in renewable energy. My gas bill ranges from $20 to 200$ and they have plenty of infrastructure as well. Internet bill, based on data. Phone bill based on minutes/data. Diesel bill based on how many liters. Electricity - crooked business spearheaded by Steve West.

            Do you have an open market free trade sort of solution in mind if not pay by use? Again, not asking for free power, just asking to have the bill reflect the power i am actually using for that month/day/year/ whatever so that if i generate my own electricity the reduction in power i use is reflected in the bill.

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              #76
              Originally posted by tweety View Post
              But the problem is the bill isn't based on use. That is unfair, legislated so. Plain and simple and needs to be changed in order for the innovation and development to occur in renewable energy. My gas bill ranges from $20 to 200$ and they have plenty of infrastructure as well. Internet bill, based on data. Phone bill based on minutes/data. Diesel bill based on how many liters. Electricity - crooked business spearheaded by Steve West.

              Do you have an open market free trade sort of solution in mind if not pay by use? Again, not asking for free power, just asking to have the bill reflect the power i am actually using for that month/day/year/ whatever so that if i generate my own electricity the reduction in power i use is reflected in the bill.

              All I know for sure Tweety and all left turners ....... 6CO2+6H2O+light -> C6H12O6 +6O2

              Translation:
              CO2 and water and sun makes Glucose in plants and Oxygen Always has and Always will. Amen

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                #77
                Don’t hit submit twice Dummy.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                  All I know for sure Tweety and all left turners ....... 6CO2+6H2O+light -> C6H12O6 +6O2

                  Translation:
                  CO2 and water and sun makes Glucose in plants and Oxygen Always has and Always will. Amen
                  I can confirm that they do still teach photosynthesis in school. Not sure how Chuck managed to miss that entire lesson.
                  Imagine the poor teachers. Just finish teaching little Johnny and Susie ( and Ahmed etc.) about the necessity of CO2, then in the next lesson, go back to brainwashing that they are all going to die in 12 years because of CO2. Then we wonder why we have ended up with a generation of Science deniers like Chuck et al.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by tweety View Post
                    But the problem is the bill isn't based on use. That is unfair, legislated so. Plain and simple and needs to be changed in order for the innovation and development to occur in renewable energy. My gas bill ranges from $20 to 200$ and they have plenty of infrastructure as well. Internet bill, based on data. Phone bill based on minutes/data. Diesel bill based on how many liters. Electricity - crooked business spearheaded by Steve West.

                    Do you have an open market free trade sort of solution in mind if not pay by use? Again, not asking for free power, just asking to have the bill reflect the power i am actually using for that month/day/year/ whatever so that if i generate my own electricity the reduction in power i use is reflected in the bill.
                    And it costs nothing to deliver and pickup your power?

                    When it can comes through the air like your internet talk to me about the fixed vs variable costs of power.

                    Edit Oh and yes the cost of the poles and wire to your meter has nothing to do with the amount of power you use. But it is still there. Try using the argument with your insurance agent. But, but I haven't claimed on it. Why are you charging me?
                    Last edited by LEP; Aug 24, 2020, 14:19.

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                      #80
                      His (her) argument looks even sillier in print
                      Wants power co to run a line to the house for free
                      Leftard way , i guess
                      Oh and power distribution is gonna get a hell of a lot more expensive in the near future
                      All the poles here have a serious lean to the east here after that 150 mph west wind
                      Upkeep a real big deal for power lines, grids , transformer stations, etc, what we need is a nuke reactor in every yard

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