Tucker Carlson defends actions of teen charged in killings of Kenosha protesters

[TSIPP]

Some people just need killed, it’s a fact of life.
If I acted the way these guys are I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be long in this world.

[farmaholic]

Poor family life. Financially poor. Drugs. Alcohol. Education. Poor life choices. Poor social circle.

Alot of he causes.

But why not break the cycle?

Maybe easier said than done.

[farmaholic]

I think there is a huge difference between being "born into it" and "falling into it".

Kinda like blaming the victim.

But there has to be some personal responsibility along the way.

A general fundamental understanding of right from wrong.


Fire away.

[flea beetle]

So you have no concern with the way cops treat black and indigenous people? Here is your chance you better take it. Lol

I didn’t say I had a problem, or that I didn’t have a problem with the way cops treat black and indigenous people. I simply pointed out your one sided view of things. That is all. Stop trying to say look over here, and deflect from the racism that YOU are promoting.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Poor family life. Financially poor. Drugs. Alcohol. Education. Poor life choices. Poor social circle.

Alot of he causes.

But why not break the cycle?

Maybe easier said than done.

So, these people have been failed by their families, their so-called friends, the education system, their drug dealers, and societies safety nets, yet, in the end, we only blame the police, with whom we have tasked the impossible job of keeping society safe from itself, while simultaneously making their jobs impossible, and vilifying their every move.

[farmaholic]

Without taking some personal responsibility....they failed themselves.

"As well"?

It is possible to be empatheritc, critical and sympathetic at the same time.

[furrowtickler]

Without taking some personal responsibility....they failed themselves.

"As well"?

Best post in a long time 👍👍

[LEP]

I am going to wade into this thread. I am in no way a leftie but I can't imagine police treating anyone this way and getting away with it.

I believe only in absolute self defense should a Police Officer fire a gun.

For 30 years we had a Police Officer hunt geese on our farm. He was very nice to us. Polite, didn't swear, no Yankee attitude. He left a lot of his decoys at our place so he didn't have to haul them back and forth. Christmas letters, etc.

We never asked him about his job and nothing was ever offered. But we knew about his kids and grandkids.

Well about the second last year he came up the conversation moved onto something that was in the US news. It was about a black man being killed by Police. He started going on a mini rant about black people. It was quite spiel and he left you no question that he despised them. Shocked us because it was quite a departure from our experience with him over the previous 28 years.

So he died this winter and his widow phoned up and asked if some of his ashes could be sprinkled around his main hunting spots. She pointed us to his obituary. Turns out he was the head of the SWAT force in Cleveland and I think he had also started the SWAT force in Cincinnati I think. So I can see how the thinking can permeate a Police force.

[fjlip]

Don't think we have a CLUE how it is for police to constantly deal with SUCH LOW LIFE SCUM! All of us would quickly feel as they do, totally sick of the situation and such persons, what ever color/race. It is totally understandable to me. A classic for me is hearing an Indigenous RCMP constable speak of a local reserve in total disgust, his own people. Your actions will form others opinions of you, act accordingly.

[TSIPP]

Good thing I’m not a cop, I’d have no patience for all the crap going on and I’d make Dirty Harry look like a choirboy.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I am going to wade into this thread. I am in no way a leftie but I can't imagine police treating anyone this way and getting away with it.

I believe only in absolute self defense should a Police Officer fire a gun.

For 30 years we had a Police Officer hunt geese on our farm. He was very nice to us. Polite, didn't swear, no Yankee attitude. He left a lot of his decoys at our place so he didn't have to haul them back and forth. Christmas letters, etc.

We never asked him about his job and nothing was ever offered. But we knew about his kids and grandkids.

Well about the second last year he came up the conversation moved onto something that was in the US news. It was about a black man being killed by Police. He started going on a mini rant about black people. It was quite spiel and he left you no question that he despised them. Shocked us because it was quite a departure from our experience with him over the previous 28 years.

So he died this winter and his widow phoned up and asked if some of his ashes could be sprinkled around his main hunting spots. She pointed us to his obituary. Turns out he was the head of the SWAT force in Cleveland and I think he had also started the SWAT force in Cincinnati I think. So I can see how the thinking can permeate a Police force.

It would be interesting to know if this is an attitude he brought with him into the force, or perhaps even motivated him to get into that line of work, or if it is an attitude that he developed over the years of dealing with the criminal element. It would make a big difference.
It is easy for us to be armchair quarter backs and judge police actions when we aren't exposed to this on a daily basis, and it isn't our lives on the line.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I think there is a huge difference between being "born into it" and "falling into it".

Kinda like blaming the victim.

But there has to be some personal responsibility along the way.

A general fundamental understanding of right from wrong.

Fire away.

Most of us are so far removed from these types of situations, that I doubt we can even appreciate what an uphill battle it would be to break out of the vicious cycle of broken families, poverty, substance abuse, crime, and the unwritten caste system that seems to exist, regardless of race.

Perpetuating the victim mentality is only exacerbating the problem, who can you even look to as an example of personal responsibility, when everyone you know is playing the victim card themselves? Where do you find a role model to show you right from wrong?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Without taking some personal responsibility....they failed themselves.

"As well"?

It is possible to be empatheritc, critical and sympathetic at the same time.

So, in other words, are you saying that it isn't a black and white(no pun intended) issue with clearly defined lines of who is at fault and who is the victim? As Chuck would have us all believe.

[LEP]

It would be interesting to know if this is an attitude he brought with him into the force, or perhaps even motivated him to get into that line of work, or if it is an attitude that he developed over the years of dealing with the criminal element. It would make a big difference.
It is easy for us to be armchair quarter backs and judge police actions when we aren't exposed to this on a daily basis, and it isn't our lives on the line.

I understand what you are saying. This reply actually encapsulates how I thought for a long time. I am a big supporter of the police and law and order. However, I have been disgusted with how quick some police are to open fire or take things beyond what is necessary. If you develop the attitude you describe above after years on the job. It is time for a career change. There are several qualifications to be a police officer and a “long” fuse is one of them.

[helmsdale]

A common guiding principle of officers working in high risk communities:

"Its better to be judged by twelve, than carried by six".