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    #51
    Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
    My 85 year old Dad has been given a new lease on life with permanent pleural drains installed. They drain him twice a week, it is a treatment to aid in fluid build up from congestive heart failure, without treatment he would suffer heart failure due to fluid accumulation. He is a very poor candidate for Covid infection...if he contracted Covid would it be fair to say he died of Covid or underlying causes(comorbidity?)

    It's his, and those around him, responsibility to keep him safe from contracting it.

    This isn't going away, I think the second wave might be worse than the first. There will be deaths.
    In Saskatchewan, was there even a first wave? Devils advocate. Best wishes to your dad and your family...

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      #52
      Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
      This isn't going away, I think the second wave might be worse than the first. There will be deaths.
      With respect farma, your dad wouldn't be a good candidate for a lot of things that could come his way, including the flu or a cold which can progress to respiratory infections or pneumonia, and that's pre covid and both those conditions have a vaccine.

      Now maybe we could have spent some of that $350B making sure proper care is available for our elder population and developing long lasting treatments for these comorbidity conditions.

      I didn't hear any hospitals being announced. Nor any research into heart diseases.

      Will your dad take a vaccine created in just 3 months? My parents are in decent health and said hell no.

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        #53
        Tweety,

        Yep all the necessary businesses are up and running... makes sense if you are needed and adding value you are in demand. Always were and always will be in demand.

        The businesses that are not necessary And do not add value are likely very slow and not surprised.

        People with skills, who add value and are contributing to economic growth likely not sitting at home collecting CERB.

        The basement dwellers who are afraid of COVID and want to just stay in their basement are not the economic drivers and are likely either not needed or can be easily replaced.

        Some teachers are willing to teach and do a great job - they are economic drivers; there are others who are a drain on the education system, replace those individuals.

        Tweety - I am not stuck out on the back forty with no contact with the outside world. I can think and function within the larger global economy; my world view is not limited to my farm.

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          #54
          Still say if they wouldn’t have told us about the “China flu” it would just be the “flu”. We wouldn’t have known any different. People die everyday and I’m sorry for that but it’s life and the so called leaders who dictate the policies on this “pandemic” don’t have a god damn clue what to do and that is very evident by the hypocrisy and contradiction of the rules they are implementing. More people are gonna end up dying from the policies of this “distraction”.

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            #55
            Originally posted by RTK View Post
            Tweety,

            Yep all the necessary businesses are up and running... makes sense if you are needed and adding value you are in demand. Always were and always will be in demand.

            The businesses that are not necessary And do not add value are likely very slow and not surprised.

            People with skills, who add value and are contributing to economic growth likely not sitting at home collecting CERB.

            The basement dwellers who are afraid of COVID and want to just stay in their basement are not the economic drivers and are likely either not needed or can be easily replaced.

            Some teachers are willing to teach and do a great job - they are economic drivers; there are others who are a drain on the education system, replace those individuals.

            Tweety - I am not stuck out on the back forty with no contact with the outside world. I can think and function within the larger global economy; my world view is not limited to my farm.
            I don't suspect you are, but i think the number of people hiding is very small - and if they are they most likely are extremely high risk who are used to hiding and avoiding humans.

            Was asked the other day, how many people do you know who lost their job because of covid. Well, very very few, only 1, but that probably had more to do with the price of oil. Many businesses, home exercise equipment, bicycles, local tourism, parks... have been making a killing. Some win big time, some lose. Lots have moved a lot of biz online. The world has changed, office space will most likely downsize, meetings on zoom more often saving huge dollars. People can work from home or anywhere.

            People are saving huge dollars not going out spending on "unnecessary" things, houses are being bought/sold like crazy. The stock market hasn't crashed. Food still on the shelves. Interest rates are low. Life is good.

            I am pretty sure SK hasn't even touched the first wave. Hopefully that can remain the case till there is a vaccine. Good thing no one wants to go there lol, no int'l airports. Families losing loved ones to Covid is really sad, and if that pain can be avoided, that is a real win. Thumbs up for SK!!

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              #56
              Originally posted by tweety View Post
              Leave the farm once in a while, you will see pretty much business as usual other then key places that cause infections to spread, like bars etc. People, most, are using good sense. No one is hiding in their basement. Once school gets rolling and all the snot noses are in one place it will be interesting to see what happens.
              Except the leader of this country ...... shutting down government to hide from Covid and his problems.
              Leaders should not be cowards

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                #57
                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                Except the leader of this country ...... shutting down government to hide from Covid and his problems.
                Leaders should not be cowards
                Ankle bracelet house arrest.

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                  #58
                  Probably everyone knows EXACTLY how to wear a MASK...
                  NOT a single person I encounter anywhere is wearing correctly, safely.
                  Get serious people, you are accomplishing SFA!

                  How to use a mask
                  Masks can become contaminated on the outside or when touched with hands.

                  It’s important that masks are used and disposed of properly. If worn incorrectly, you can accidently spread infection instead of preventing it.

                  Guidance for wearing non-medical masks

                  What to do

                  Wash or sanitize your hands:
                  before putting it on
                  before taking it off
                  after taking it off
                  Inspect the mask, holding it by the ties or loops. Discard if damaged or dirty
                  Tighten with ties or ear loops to reduce gaps
                  Keep nose, mouth and chin covered at all times
                  Remove if wet, torn or dirty and dispose in a lined garbage bin
                  Store cloth masks in a sealed bag until it can be washed in hot, soapy water

                  What not to do

                  Don't touch your face under the mask
                  Don't touch the front of the mask – remove or adjust using the ties or ear loops
                  Don't wear it under your nose or your chin
                  Don't wear a wet, torn or dirty mask
                  Don’t wear the same mask for a long period of time – change when it becomes damp
                  Don’t share with another person

                  How to care for your cloth mask
                  Store masks in a sealed and clean storage bag and place in a dry area of your home.
                  Put cloth masks directly into the washing machine or in a bag that can be emptied into the washing machine. Throw out the bag after you’ve used it to store masks.
                  Launder with other items using a hot cycle, and then dry thoroughly.
                  Inspect the mask for damage prior to reuse.

                  https://www.alberta.ca/masks.aspx https://www.alberta.ca/masks.aspx

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                    Probably everyone knows EXACTLY how to wear a MASK...
                    NOT a single person I encounter anywhere is wearing correctly, safely.
                    Get serious people, you are accomplishing SFA!

                    How to use a mask
                    Masks can become contaminated on the outside or when touched with hands.

                    It’s important that masks are used and disposed of properly. If worn incorrectly, you can accidently spread infection instead of preventing it.

                    Guidance for wearing non-medical masks

                    What to do

                    Wash or sanitize your hands:
                    before putting it on
                    before taking it off
                    after taking it off
                    Inspect the mask, holding it by the ties or loops. Discard if damaged or dirty
                    Tighten with ties or ear loops to reduce gaps
                    Keep nose, mouth and chin covered at all times
                    Remove if wet, torn or dirty and dispose in a lined garbage bin
                    Store cloth masks in a sealed bag until it can be washed in hot, soapy water

                    What not to do

                    Don't touch your face under the mask
                    Don't touch the front of the mask – remove or adjust using the ties or ear loops
                    Don't wear it under your nose or your chin
                    Don't wear a wet, torn or dirty mask
                    Don’t wear the same mask for a long period of time – change when it becomes damp
                    Don’t share with another person

                    How to care for your cloth mask
                    Store masks in a sealed and clean storage bag and place in a dry area of your home.
                    Put cloth masks directly into the washing machine or in a bag that can be emptied into the washing machine. Throw out the bag after you’ve used it to store masks.
                    Launder with other items using a hot cycle, and then dry thoroughly.
                    Inspect the mask for damage prior to reuse.

                    https://www.alberta.ca/masks.aspx https://www.alberta.ca/masks.aspx
                    Get your mask on, another day of single digit new cases! High risk out there!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      Except the leader of this country ...... shutting down government to hide from Covid and his problems.
                      Leaders should not be cowards
                      Well he did go protest....

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