What will we do for Carbon , for life and plant growth?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

All ice sheets are losing mass, some more than others. You can read about it here :

https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html

I don't know why I continue to let you distract me from the topic at hand. But did you bother to read the article you posted?

You say ALL ice sheets yet again. Do you know how many ice sheets there are on earth? A total of 2. And as per the article which appears to be ~13 years old, only one is losing ( with caveats), and they don't know about the other one( lots of scientific debate about Antarctic cooling, and net ice gain but that is a subject for another thread). All they say is :

some stations appear to be cooling slightly. Overall, scientists believe that Antarctica is starting to lose ice,

There is that believe word you are so fond of again. So policy is not only being based on CO2 residence time which you don't have any idea what the range might be, but it is also being based on someones belief, how reassuring.

Nowhere does it substantiate your bewilering claim that all of the ice sheets will melt.

This is what passes for settled science.

Do you just put up the first sciency sounding article you find on google, and hope it has some relevance?

[Guest]

poor chuck , god damn details, lol

[chuckChuck]

A5, you are wrong again on ice sheets! At least you are consistent. LOL

And yes "all" meaning the 2 major ice sheets greenland and antarctica are both losing mass.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/ https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/ice-sheets/

Antarctica ice sheet is losing 148 Gigatonnes per year on average.

Greenland is losing 279 Gigatonnes per year on average.

Data from NASA's GRACE and GRACE Follow-On satellites show that the land ice sheets in both Antarctica (upper chart) and Greenland (lower chart) have been losing mass since 2002. The GRACE mission concluded science operations in June 2017.

GRACE Follow-On began data collection in June 2018 and is now continuing the mass change data record for both ice sheets. This data record includes the latest data processing improvements and is continually updated as more data are collected (with a lag of up to two months).

[chuckChuck]

A5 we are all waiting for you to spin the ice sheets mass loss into a bogus denial claim! LOL

In the meantime when are you going to post any science from a credible scientific organization to back up your opinions? You seem to be a big talker but you never seem to have any backup for your wacky denial ideas!

Instead you like to nitpick and distract to avoid the meat of the issue. Its not working! LOL

[BreadWinner]

Chuck you should move on, find a new pet project to make yourself important. Obviously you aren’t a farmer so your cut and paste environmental spew has no value to most on here. In fact farmers are great friends to the environment so Im not sure what your purpose is,. I think the very few on here would appreciate you much more if you were somewhere else. So if you are thinking of moving to another forum to spend some time it was nice having you here and good luck over there.

[chuckChuck]

Nice try bread. Try coming up with a credible counter argument on human caused climate change!

Many farmers are concerned about the environment but many don't care much and will criticize every little move to protect the environment.

[Hamloc]

A5 we are all waiting for you to spin the ice sheets mass loss into a bogus denial claim! LOL

In the meantime when are you going to post any science from a credible scientific organization to back up your opinions? You seem to be a big talker but you never seem to have any backup for your wacky denial ideas!

Instead you like to nitpick and distract to avoid the meat of the issue. Its not working! LOL

Interesting article:nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-study-rising-carbon-dioxide-levels-will-help-and-hurt-crops.

As for your concern about glacial melt, it would seem very logical that since the end of the last ice age that glacial sheets would continue to retreat, and to end it like you Chuck lol!

[chuckChuck]

I have never denied that increasing CO2 levels will be of some benefit to some types of crops in some regions but corn tells a different story.

"According to the study, the impact of doubled carbon dioxide concentrations on crop water productivity and yield varies regionally. Results show that maize suffers yield losses with doubled carbon dioxide levels, due in large part to the plant’s already greater efficiency at using carbon dioxide for photosynthesis compared with the other crops. Maize yields fall by 15 percent in areas that use irrigation and by 8 percent in areas that rely on rain. Even so, losses would be more severe without the carbon dioxide increase: yields would decrease 21 percent for irrigated maize and 26 percent for rainfed maize."

Are you going to post research that discusses all the positive and negative impacts of climate change and accept the conclusions or are you going to be selecting only the positive changes and conclusions?

[Integrity_Farmer]

if these whacked out chrysters were ever to pull this "zero carbon" pipe dream ??????
we need a lot more now than the earth needed a hundred thousand years ago

Hang up your stocking for Christmas and hope Santa brings you a lump of coal or a jar of tar.

[BreadWinner]

Nobody cares Chuck they are just baiting you!!! You really are stupid just like a cat chasing a laser light. You do realize the farmers on here can't control Trump or the Environment....