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    #13
    Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
    Rained / showered 4-5 times yesterday
    Barley was close to dry Tuesday.
    Cereals already in trouble for down grading
    West and south of here there will be light frost damage , crops in general are behind In most areas.
    Crops north are still greenish
    The heat helped but still most areas here were too far behind from lack of heat units for the first 2/3 of growing season .
    There is a big pocket NW of here where the canola in not good at all . Thin , short , laying over and fears of a lot being less than 20 bpa.
    No one seems to have an answer, or they are not talking about it .
    Scouts are confirming it’s not clubroot, but do say that one RM has the poorest canola in Northern Sask and no one seems to know why
    It’s all varieties. There was an early hail storm in that area at bolting but did not cause significant damage .
    Blackleg is present in certain varieties.
    I wish Saskschafe was still with us , he would give a far better idea of that area .
    There is no one else on here from that area , or at least no one active that would have a clue as to what’s going on .
    There are a few fields / varieties in this area the same . Short , thin , spindly won’t make 20 bpa.
    Other fields right beside will be average to above if not hailed . In some cases it’s the same variety, one field good , the other very poor .... same weather , same everything . It’s strange.

    For the most part crops here are good except the hailed areas, some will still be ok to some already bailed up and gone .

    Ohhh , and it’s back to rain every 3-4 days , so it’s wait to dry , rush to combine for 12 hrs once dryish before next rain ..... this pattern better change . It will be a wreck if it dont .
    Any Verticillium Wilt in the area? If so, club root wont be your biggest threat any longer.

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      #14
      Dumb question as it’s been stated, but you guys allowed to prepare staff spray wheat?

      Only feed barley here and has to be documented upon delivery.

      None on wheat.

      Glyphosate or Reglone on canola And some pulse crops.

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        #15
        Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
        Dumb question as it’s been stated, but you guys allowed to prepare staff spray wheat?

        Only feed barley here and has to be documented upon delivery.

        None on wheat.

        Glyphosate or Reglone on canola And some pulse crops.
        Interesting question. Unrelated, but on the same page, I have been having some interesting conversations with people lately.

        Many conversations have involved the preharvest spraying of glyph. I am finding no one I have talked to that has brought it up is very excited about it. These are regular, non green peace members of the public.

        Mechanics, teachers, retired farmers, nurses, no one likes the idea.

        Just a heads up because it sure seems the public is generally not understanding the why of preharvest. More bluntly, they are suspicious and sickened by it. I think it is quite a common thing. I have done my part to try and explain to them, but they have none of it, don’t trust it, and find it hard to believe it is a healthy choice.


        Just curious if others are seeing this, and what or how you deal with those comments? It is noticeable and far more common in the last few years I find, ppl are wondering about sprayers in ripe crops. They notice, and are getting to demand answers. I fear we as farmers don’t have very good answers. Saying f you or it’s healthy is not gunna work.

        Usually the conversations start when they find I am a farmer, and they then express their disdain for today’s agriculture. I think we are on the verge of danger in that ppl are upset.
        Last edited by Sheepwheat; Sep 3, 2020, 17:57.

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          #16
          Originally posted by MBgrower View Post
          Any Verticillium Wilt in the area? If so, club root wont be your biggest threat any longer.
          Does not seem to be the case , verticillium wilt happens at late maturity. The canola in that area was in trouble over a month ago .
          Most likely that hail storm just when most of that canola was just cabbaging to early bolt, caused plant stress more than thought , then a 4 -5 inch rain within an 18 hr period a week later followed by the 3 weeks heat . A combination not seen before , at least not in that sequence and time frame . Plants were stressed to the Max , roots never developed , lighter souls lost N and S then the oven hit . About the only thing I can think of that makes remote sense there .
          Roots are poorly developed, horizontal and thin plants . Other issue then stem from that.
          Kinda like peas that get too much rain after a herbicide application..... other issues get magnified greatly like root rot . That’s my best guess and a agronomist I know very well .
          Hopefully they don’t see that again .
          Lots of those light swaths got blown bad the last three days . Some of the first canola was 15 bus or less from second hand reports .
          Regardless a crappy situation.

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            #17
            Originally posted by Sheepwheat View Post
            Interesting question. Unrelated, but on the same page, I have been having some interesting conversations with people lately.

            Many conversations have involved the preharvest spraying of glyph. I am finding no one I have talked to that has brought it up is very excited about it. These are regular, non green peace members of the public.

            Mechanics, teachers, retired farmers, nurses, no one likes the idea.

            Just a heads up because it sure seems the public is generally not understanding the why of preharvest. More bluntly, they are suspicious and sickened by it. I think it is quite a common thing. I have done my part to try and explain to them, but they have none of it, don’t trust it, and find it hard to believe it is a healthy choice.


            Just curious if others are seeing this, and what or how you deal with those comments? It is noticeable and far more common in the last few years I find, ppl are wondering about sprayers in ripe crops. They notice, and are getting to demand answers. I fear we as farmers don’t have very good answers. Saying f you or it’s healthy is not gunna work.

            Usually the conversations start when they find I am a farmer, and they then express their disdain for today’s agriculture. I think we are on the verge of danger in that ppl are upset.
            I agree think it's soon off label and NO pre harvest weed control. Oats is there, malt always was, just wheat left. The customer is always right, even if wrong.

            And really only way to avoid feed wheat is NOT to get rain on swaths. Straight cut or swath the day we combine. #2 is worst we get, bleaching is not a grading factor.
            Last edited by fjlip; Sep 3, 2020, 18:53.

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              #18
              [QUOTE=fjlip;464002]I agree think it's soon off label and NO pre harvest weed. The customer is always right, even if wrong.

              No a truer word spoken wether we like it or not.

              Basically rarely used here on cereals

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                #19
                Will be interesting to watch some local barley
                One larger farm here sprayed every single acre , lots of acres .
                Will be watching to see if accepted for malt .
                I asked the local elevator grain buyer if any malt ever accepted with glyphosate? I knew the answer, just wanted to hear it.
                Will be watching
                Tired of rules for everyone except a select few
                It’s either bad or not ...

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                  Will be interesting to watch some local barley
                  One larger farm here sprayed every single acre , lots of acres .
                  Will be watching to see if accepted for malt .
                  I asked the local elevator grain buyer if any malt ever accepted with glyphosate? I knew the answer, just wanted to hear it.
                  Will be watching
                  Tired of rules for everyone except a select few
                  It’s either bad or not ...
                  Furrow, as long as it has germination its good to go. That and chitting is all that matters, staining isn't really an issue anymore it seems. Maybe if they sprayed the fields when they were dead ripe they will get away with desicating, but why would you take a chance like that if your hoping for malt.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
                    Furrow, as long as it has germination its good to go. That and chitting is all that matters, staining isn't really an issue anymore it seems. Maybe if they sprayed the fields when they were dead ripe they will get away with desicating, but why would you take a chance like that if your hoping for malt.
                    Was very far from dead ripe , not one field lol
                    Grain buyer said no glyphosate, period
                    Again will be interesting to watch , I agree why take the chance
                    Point is , Why rules for most but not for a few ?
                    Last edited by furrowtickler; Sep 3, 2020, 20:47.

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                      #22
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      Was very far from dead ripe , not one field lol
                      Grain buyer said no glyphosate, period
                      Again will be interesting to watch , I agree why take the chance
                      Point is , s was my rules for most but not for a few ?
                      Well thats right, but, if the germ is below I think its 80% your sunk and even then they take the best stuff first. But yeah, the rules get bent more than a democratic run u.s. election!

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by sk_wheatking View Post
                        Furrow, as long as it has germination its good to go. That and chitting is all that matters, staining isn't really an issue anymore it seems. Maybe if they sprayed the fields when they were dead ripe they will get away with desicating, but why would you take a chance like that if your hoping for malt.
                        no , you have to sign a sworn statement here, thats why we quit the malt BS

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                          I agree think it's soon off label and NO pre harvest weed control. Oats is there, malt always was, just wheat left. The customer is always right, even if wrong.

                          And really only way to avoid feed wheat is NOT to get rain on swaths. Straight cut or swath the day we combine. #2 is worst we get, bleaching is not a grading factor.
                          except last year , sprouted standing , was feed till feb , then a #2

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