Get ready for the Liberals' secret new carbon tax

[rumrocks]

So if this all true and a waste of time don't you think O'toole would stop the insanity?

No, instead he said he will stand by the Paris agreement to reduce greenhouse gas emissions! Say Whaaaat!

Looks like your views have had zero influence on O'toole and the Conservatives! LOL

Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal voters .

[ColevilleH2S]

Since Chuck likes data:

[jazz]

Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal voters .

Yup, gotta give the climate mouth breathers something so instead of real science and real solutions, just give them some UN globalist garbage. Meh climate change....

Trudeau will have to pull some biofuel crap to say he is doing something. No nuclear reactors in the works, hydro is dead and overrun to the point it might put a couple provinces into insolvency, solar wind are a dud and would have to be located in southern sask so no way to feed Toronto because power lines will be blocked too. Hydrogen is fiction at this point.

So just tell the drooling masses farmers are making renewables while we carbon tax their grain drying.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Funny how they forgot to include water vapour in Chuck's pretty graph of greenhouse gases. I wonder why they would omit what is by far the most significant greenhouse gas.

[macdon02]

If you are not familiar with Breakthrough Energy yet, i highly recommend doing some research. This is more wealth redistribution and it will make you puke seeing who the board of directors is. Freeland has mentioned this "theory" if serfdom in her TED talks. We are not the winners in this scenario, but suddenly we will be the target of oil. Divide and Conquer.





There's a Canadian division that has agreements in place with the Govt of Canada. We are handing everything over to the elite and sacrificing small private business. You can take it to the bank that any biofuel processing will be an oligopoly, the same as the rail, grain, utilities, and every other aspect of life in Canada, tight hands that are govt endorsed not allowing anyone else in.

[chuckChuck]

Since Chuck likes data:
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Interesting! But it still doesn’t change the reality that greenhouse gas emissions are causing climate change.

[dalek]

Read deeper into the biofuels part. It won’t be good for farmers at all. Only crops from certain farms certified “clean” will be allowed to be sold into the biofuels market. Cleared more than half a hectare of land since 2007? Can’t sell crop for biofuels, has to go somewhere else. Don’t want to leave a 30m buffer on either side of a vaguely described waterway? Can’t sell crop for biofuels. Etc etc. And it’s up to the farmer to prove their crop is “clean” and it’ll have to end up in two streams through the elevator systems, transportation, etc and you can bet who gets to pay for that too.

And oh yeah, imported grain won’t have to meet the standard to go into the biofuel stream. So existing plants can just bring in US corn and kill the local basis

[burnt]

Read deeper into the biofuels part. It won’t be good for farmers at all. Only crops from certain farms certified “clean” will be allowed to be sold into the biofuels market. Cleared more than half a hectare of land since 2007? Can’t sell crop for biofuels, has to go somewhere else. Don’t want to leave a 30m buffer on either side of a vaguely described waterway? Can’t sell crop for biofuels. Etc etc. And it’s up to the farmer to prove their crop is “clean” and it’ll have to end up in two streams through the elevator systems, transportation, etc and you can bet who gets to pay for that too.

And oh yeah, imported grain won’t have to meet the standard to go into the biofuel stream. So existing plants can just bring in US corn and kill the local basis

dalek, do you get the Farmtario paper? Good piece in there recently touching on what you just said.

Grain Farmers of Ontario is onto it.

[jazz]

Read deeper into the biofuels part.

Good catch dalek, Trudeau always has a huge FU built into every policy. This looks like another direct attack on the energy industry using biofuels as cover.

Of course the average idiot from Toronto has never seen a canola field so what do they know. Just go along with it.

[dalek]

dalek, do you get the Farmtario paper? Good piece in there recently touching on what you just said.

Grain Farmers of Ontario is onto it.

I have it here but I haven’t gotten to it yet. Might have to eat a block of cheese so I can make some time for reading. I’m sure it’ll come up for the GFO AGM on Tuesday

[Hamloc]

What no one has mentioned is the regulations under the new clean fuel standard amount to the equivalent of a $350 a tonne C02 tax. The main targets are transportation and heating fuels. The problem in my opinion from a farmer perspective is the heating fuels, natural gas and propane. Imagine what the equivalent of $350 a tonne C02 tax will do to your grain drying bill. It is only $30 a tonne now! Anybody that thinks that Justin Trudeau will enact policies that will benefit farmers in western Canada must be consuming marijuana edibles!

[Hamloc]

Interesting column in the Toronto Sun: “Sims:B.C. Emissions up despite highest carbon tax in Canada.” A couple of highlights. Latest year stats are available for is 2018, C02 emissions were 67.9 million tonnes. An increase of 10% in the last 3 years. Some very interesting quotes from John Horgan who fought against the carbon tax in 2008 but keeps pushing higher today. These policies are a cash grab plain and simple!!