Where did all the "bumper" crop experts go all of a sudden?????????????

[tweety]

Just mabey its time to quit buying your crop and just grow what you can,give supply and demand a chance.
With all the tech out there nowadays the grain cos and machine cos all know what you have to sell before you do and can set prices accordingly.

Horse exactly! And farmers are doing all they can to make sure that data gets more and more accurate.

Are farmers bills too high because too many decisions have too low of an ROI? How is spending your way to profitable crop production working out?

Gotsta get me that X11 and the 80' header - maybe 2 of them, it'll improve my productivity AND make my neighbors jealous.

[tweety]

Yes well thought out plan. Suppose they can't pick up 10 cars from P&H, 5 from Viterra, 3 from PIO etc. Always said grain should be delivered to one elevator and buyers from each grain company have an office in the elevator buying and shipping. Ever been to cattle stock yards?

What about learning something from Australia:

The total cost of a typical export grain supply chain in Canada is around $107 per tonne, including on-farm storage. By contrast the equivalent supply chain in Australia has a total cost of around $87 per tonne.• In Canada, the transport distance from upcountry storage to port is about six times longer than occurs in Australia, so the transport cost is higher: $49 per tonne for Canada versus $28 per tonne for Australia. However, the per tonne kilometre cost of rail freight is almost five times lower: 0.03$/NTK in Canada versus 0.14$/NTK in Australia.• On-farm storage costs on a per tonne basis are higher in Australia than in Canada, but only a small proportion of the grain bound for export is stored on farm in Australia. Most is stored in much cheaper warehouse storage. In Canada, nearly all grain is stored on farm so the total cost of the storage task is higher: $18 per tonne in Canada versus $9 per tonne in Australia.• Port receival, handling and vessel charges in Canada are two thirds of the equivalent charges in Australia for the same service: $14 per tonne in Canada versus $21 per tonne in Australia. This difference can be partly explained by higher throughput volumes at Canadian ports allowing for economies of scale and reduced regulation that enables more flexibility in loading vessels

Good info to ponder. https://www.aegic.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Canadian-Supply-Chain-Full-Report.pdf https://www.aegic.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Canadian-Supply-Chain-Full-Report.pdf

[jazz]

Are farmers bills too high because too many decisions have too low of an ROI? How is spending your way to profitable crop production working out?

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Just curious which inputs you would forgo? Around here cutting back fertility would make a 50 bu canola crop become 30bu. 30bu doesnt pay the bills either especially when buying high priced seed.

IMHO the only reason Canadian ag still exists is that farmers were able to hit these higher yeilds consistently. I dont think there is any profit in going back to half those yeilds either.

If you are landowner, the biggest savings right now is a refi on your loan.

I agree on transport costs, we should let the Americans take it all out on their system instead of banging our heads against the rockies.

[farmaholic]

that $10 carrot dangling this summer caught a lot of rabbits
although no-one will admit to it now

I sold some specialty canola I wish I hadn't.

Very respectable prices but the spread is narrowing.

Hindsight marketing.....always 20-20.

[LEP]

I sold some specialty canola I wish I hadn't.

Very respectable prices but the spread is narrowing.

Hindsight marketing.....always 20-20.

I sold some canola at $10. A few loads to get cashflow. Didn't realize there were so many homerun hitters here. I try to bat for an average. Never sell too much at once. Just when you think you have it figured out the market bites you in the ass.

Oh also sold some reds for .28 and durum for over $8 but again still trying to bat for an average.

[LEP]

Wasn't directed any ill will your way farma just commenting the same general thought. Nobody hits homeruns all the time.

[farmaholic]

I try. And I hate leaving money on the table.

Sometimes I calculate "the difference between what I got and what I could of had". The difference is staggering sometimes. I image what I could do with those coulda woulda shoulda dollars.

Not recommended.

[tweety]

Just curious which inputs you would forgo? Around here cutting back fertility would make a 50 bu canola crop become 30bu. 30bu doesnt pay the bills either especially when buying high priced seed.

IMHO the only reason Canadian ag still exists is that farmers were able to hit these higher yeilds consistently. I dont think there is any profit in going back to half those yeilds either.

If you are landowner, the biggest savings right now is a refi on your loan.

I agree on transport costs, we should let the Americans take it all out on their system instead of banging our heads against the rockies.

You would have to look at your soil test and find out what the percentage you are likely to get 50 bu. I'm guessing it's less the 20%

[LEP]

You would have to look at your soil test and find out what the percentage you are likely to get 50 bu. I'm guessing it's less the 20%

I don't know the percentage for Jazz but I think I know the general area that he farms in and it is capable of big crops.

Kinda like where Sask3 farms with alittle less rain.

[farmaholic]

You would have to look at your soil test and find out what the percentage you are likely to get 50 bu. I'm guessing it's less the 20%

Rain rain rain. Without even a modest amount the rest is just spent money.

We are so tapped out of moisture now. 2021 could be very scary... we don't need a foot of rain to grow a crop but just some timely rains. In the meantime.... feel the stress.

So for go...

[Guest]

Rain rain rain. Without even a modest amount the rest is just spent money.

We are so tapped out of moisture now. 2021 could be very scary... we don't need a foot of rain to grow a crop but just some timely rains. In the meantime.... feel the stress.

So for go...

its so dry here that seldom is not even saying there is too much rain , lol

[seldomseen]

I hate rain!!!