500 million for electric vehicle production

[bucket]

It just doesn't end ....

And a billion for buying old hotels to convert them to housing...

[Austrian Economics]

The miracle of zero percent interest. When you can borrow at zero percent, even the most hare-brained schemes pencil out.

Most politicians are thinking they've died and gone heaven thanks to Covid. The cost of buying a vote is pretty much zero now.

[bucket]

Wouldn't this be considered a subsidy ...like the regular auto industry gets or the oil and gas industry receives. ?

[tweety]

Wouldn't this be considered a subsidy ...like the regular auto industry gets or the oil and gas industry receives. ?

If its not a problem to give 30 to 50 billion in subsidies to oil and gas, it shouldn't be a problem to give a few scraps to the electric car industry.

[bucket]

For all of Jerry Diaz criminal activity with the union stuff out in Regina...he manages to get the governments ear on these things ....so why dont the farm groups hire him....because the current group of farm leaders are doing a really shitty job...


The throne speech and not one farm group did anything public for an ask ....their methods are not working....

20 billion cdn equivalent just announced by Trump recently...

Canadian farmers-----zero nothing nada.....and crickets from the farmer groups except for the Ontario group...

[jazz]

If its not a problem to give 30 to 50 billion in subsidies to oil and gas, it shouldn't be a problem to give a few scraps to the electric car industry.

Pls show us where the oil industry has been given those kinds of subsidies, especially from a resource that contributed $600B back to confederation. I would say that was a pretty good investment if true. A 20:1 ROI.

How much will electric vehicles contribute? Exactly zero. In fact, it will lose money.

[chuckChuck]

Bloomberg:

https://about.bnef.com/electric-vehicle-outlook/ https://about.bnef.com/electric-vehicle-outlook/

International Energy Agency forecast:

https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2020 https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2020

[bucket]

If its not a problem to give 30 to 50 billion in subsidies to oil and gas, it shouldn't be a problem to give a few scraps to the electric car industry.

Which economy do you like ...the one we have now...... or the one where oil and gas are generating alot of jobs and the economy seemed healthy...

This electric vehicle subsidy is only to keep a few jobs....and eventually Ford will move them anyway...

It won't end at the 500 million to Ford....sell a bunch of EV and the whole electrical grid will need an update....

[jazz]

Traditional vehicle production will be back in Michigan thanks to Trump. Sorry ontario, maybe you can make some alternators for them or something.

Anything electric will be based out of Texas where Tesla is moving. Ford will be there buying up Telsa with our $500M. The govt should just buy Teslas overpriced stock. Would be a better return than this idiot scheme.

[furrowtickler]

Which economy do you like ...the one we have now...... or the one where oil and gas are generating alot of jobs and the economy seemed healthy...

This electric vehicle subsidy is only to keep a few jobs....and eventually Ford will move them anyway...

It won't end at the 500 million to Ford....sell a bunch of EV and the whole electrical grid will need an update....

Exactly, without steady power from natural gas or nuclear power plants this scheme is As dead in the water as the power grid in mid winter will be in 95% of Canada .

[Zephyr]

Tell me,


Why is it that most of you on here hold on so fervently to one energy source?

Geothermal can generate power and heat homes without emissions.

Hydrogen is largely untapped.

Hydroelectric dams last for hundreds of years and produce clean energy plus manage a resource.

Wind is always blowing. Might as well use it for something?


Battery packs keep getting better. Oil is a battery too.

Bio-waste can be turned into heat power and fuel for engines and turbines plus remove waste and gas from landfills.


Instead of trucks and cars think hyperloop and electric trains.

You truly want to know why we go nowhere in this country? It's because the majority of people - regardless of political spectrum - would rather bash an idea than come up with one, fund one, or build one.


Hell, I'm sure the wheel and fire would never have been adopted if the entire world was like you guys

[farmaholic]

Very close to the Ghetto.

Renewables can surely compliment hydrocarbons but it will be awhile until they can supplant them.

Some new homes here built with Geothermal complain about it not keeping up during prolonged cold spells. And the power bill being high supplementing heating and for running pumps etc.

Will renewables be able to keep up to growing demands or will they always have to be supplemented with hydrocarbons, hydro-electric, etc.

[bucket]

Tell me,


Why is it that most of you on here hold on so fervently to one energy source?

Geothermal can generate power and heat homes without emissions.

Hydrogen is largely untapped.

Hydroelectric dams last for hundreds of years and produce clean energy plus manage a resource.

Wind is always blowing. Might as well use it for something?


Battery packs keep getting better. Oil is a battery too.

Bio-waste can be turned into heat power and fuel for engines and turbines plus remove waste and gas from landfills.


Instead of trucks and cars think hyperloop and electric trains.

You truly want to know why we go nowhere in this country? It's because the majority of people - regardless of political spectrum - would rather bash an idea than come up with one, fund one, or build one.


Hell, I'm sure the wheel and fire would never have been adopted if the entire world was like you guys

Tell me where i am plugging my electric tractor and combine into and we can have a conversation....

Trains are essentially electric now....diesel powers the generator....you want to start putting power lines above the mainline????? And keep it functional????

power outage and the trains stop?????wtf

[Oliver88]

Tell me,


Why is it that most of you on here hold on so fervently to one energy source?

Geothermal can generate power and heat homes without emissions.

Hydrogen is largely untapped.

Hydroelectric dams last for hundreds of years and produce clean energy plus manage a resource.

Wind is always blowing. Might as well use it for something?


Battery packs keep getting better. Oil is a battery too.

Bio-waste can be turned into heat power and fuel for engines and turbines plus remove waste and gas from landfills.


Instead of trucks and cars think hyperloop and electric trains.

You truly want to know why we go nowhere in this country? It's because the majority of people - regardless of political spectrum - would rather bash an idea than come up with one, fund one, or build one.


Hell, I'm sure the wheel and fire would never have been adopted if the entire world was like you guys

People on here don’t want only one power supply. From what I understand they want several reliable power supplies which include hydro-electric, nuclear, NG, coal, and you propose straw (gassifier) power which seems like something worth looking into for certain applications.

Could you explain why wind power would be a good investment on the Canadian prairies for a reliable power source? (The Alberta power statistics don’t show that it’s always windy but I’d like to hear your explanation.)

[furrowtickler]

Tell me,


Why is it that most of you on here hold on so fervently to one energy source?

Geothermal can generate power and heat homes without emissions.

Hydrogen is largely untapped.

Hydroelectric dams last for hundreds of years and produce clean energy plus manage a resource.

Wind is always blowing. Might as well use it for something?


Battery packs keep getting better. Oil is a battery too.

Bio-waste can be turned into heat power and fuel for engines and turbines plus remove waste and gas from landfills.


Instead of trucks and cars think hyperloop and electric trains.

You truly want to know why we go nowhere in this country? It's because the majority of people - regardless of political spectrum - would rather bash an idea than come up with one, fund one, or build one.


Hell, I'm sure the wheel and fire would never have been adopted if the entire world was like you guys

Hydroelectric dams are finished , be honest with yourself .