500 million for electric vehicle production

[Zephyr]

Hydroelectric dams are finished , be honest with yourself .

The world begs to differ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-45019893

[LEP]

The world begs to differ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-45019893

I think the article actually affirms what furrow just stated.

Most Dams are being built outside of NA. Because of lower environmental and cultural impact standards.

The World Bank is no longer financing these projects and the Chinese Infrastructure Bank has stepped in because they ask fewer questions. Also it allows Chinese firms to take control of the project.

In NA Site C may well be the last dam project in the next few decades.

[TASFarms]

Maybe we all need to buy a diesel electric kirvet tractor and hook it up to the grid when not using it for field use

[MBgrower]

Hydroelectric dams are finished , be honest with yourself .

If you cant build a little pipeline, how will you ever convince the woke crowd its ok to flood out vasts tracks of land to build a hydro dam.

[farmaholic]

If you cant build a little pipeline, how will you ever convince the woke crowd its ok to flood out vasts tracks of land to build a hydro dam.

Tell them they can fish, drive their boats and personal watercraft, camp in the adjacent parks, charge their electric cars, irrigate..... all as a result of a power generating hydro dam.

And as bucket says, do we have enough elevation to make more than one, afew many miles apart?, ...the cascading effect.

Fresh water is always in short supply on the arid prairies. Using it purposefully would be better than letting it flow to salt water.

[sumdumguy]

500 M - smells a little Musky to me.

[furrowtickler]

The world begs to differ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-45019893

The world does not have to deal with First Nation rights and obsessive environmental regulations at the same time ... again be honest with yourself .... here , in Canada

The rest of the world is blowing past Canada as we pander to every single “special” group ... and have to have fire side chats about every single issue

The rest of the world is currently laughing at the stupidity in Canada

[bucket]

Why can Ford Motor Co be asked to use their saving or cash to build electric vehicles as opposed to using taxpayer money....

Seems odd on the agriculture side of the federal government you have Bibeau concerned that the agri-invest accounts are not zeroed out before they help but on the auto side they shovel money at an auto company with plenty of cash....

We need better farm leader's ...they are not getting the job done...75 billion cdn equivalent trump has thrown at farmers....

[Zephyr]

The world does not have to deal with First Nation rights and obsessive environmental regulations at the same time ... again be honest with yourself .... here , in Canada

The rest of the world is blowing past Canada as we pander to every single “special” group ... and have to have fire side chats about every single issue

The rest of the world is currently laughing at the stupidity in Canada

Canada has some soul searching to do as a nation. However I believe media is more to cause than any group...


Hard to have big protest groups when media doesn't cover them.


We have an issue in that we try to make everyone happy and spend s lot of time chasing fringe groups. St the end of the day, we are a confederation and the government has a mandate to rule in favour of the majority while protecting the rights of minorities as best as possible.

[Zephyr]

People on here don’t want only one power supply. From what I understand they want several reliable power supplies which include hydro-electric, nuclear, NG, coal, and you propose straw (gassifier) power which seems like something worth looking into for certain applications.

Could you explain why wind power would be a good investment on the Canadian prairies for a reliable power source? (The Alberta power statistics don’t show that it’s always windy but I’d like to hear your explanation.)

You could have fooled me. Every post on here is we can't possibly supplant fossil fuels. Just doesn't work!!!


Well there's two provinces in canada that get their power from water. Another that gets it from nuclear.


There's no reason why provinces on the ocean coasts can't harvest some of the currents for power.

Eventually fossil fuels will run out. Then what?



I'm all for a balance and as many power sources as possible. However, for instance, I believe Saskatchewan gets most of it's power from coal and gas. Let's diversify that.

Maybe nuclear?

Maybe some wind and some solar in the mix.

Let's do something with waste heat and co2 from the gas fired power plants.



We supplied equipment to a greenhouse facility in sask that is heated by coal and powered from electricity from the grid, then they burn nat gas to dose the building with co2.

Absolutely no way is that 1) cost effective, 2) environmentally responsible, 3) efficient, or 4) sustainable.






As far as the comment about electric tractors... The world is a big place and there's a lot of places electricity makes sense. People driving 2 ton cars to work every day... For instance.

City deliveries.

Trains can be run down electrified tracks.

Even on your farm... How many times do you run to and from the field in a pickup every day or to town for parts? A cyber truck can do all that. Put in some solar or wind generation and a power pack and you can basically bomb from field to field for free.


Costs are still high but coming down daily.

10 years ago people would have said you're crazy replacing an air powered impact with battery. How many air impacts do you use today?

[chuckChuck]

The world does not have to deal with First Nation rights and obsessive environmental regulations at the same time ... again be honest with yourself .... here , in Canada

The rest of the world is blowing past Canada as we pander to every single “special” group ... and have to have fire side chats about every single issue

The rest of the world is currently laughing at the stupidity in Canada

The oil industry and agriculture are also considered "special interests".

Oil and a ag commodities are priced in the "free" market. Farm inputs are priced in the "free" market.

You support a "free" market correct?

[chuckChuck]

You could have fooled me. Every post on here is we can't possibly supplant fossil fuels. Just doesn't work!!!


Well there's two provinces in canada that get their power from water. Another that gets it from nuclear.


There's no reason why provinces on the ocean coasts can't harvest some of the currents for power.

Eventually fossil fuels will run out. Then what?



I'm all for a balance and as many power sources as possible. However, for instance, I believe Saskatchewan gets most of it's power from coal and gas. Let's diversify that.

Maybe nuclear?

Maybe some wind and some solar in the mix.

Let's do something with waste heat and co2 from the gas fired power plants.



We supplied equipment to a greenhouse facility in sask that is heated by coal and powered from electricity from the grid, then they burn nat gas to dose the building with co2.

Absolutely no way is that 1) cost effective, 2) environmentally responsible, 3) efficient, or 4) sustainable.






As far as the comment about electric tractors... The world is a big place and there's a lot of places electricity makes sense. People driving 2 ton cars to work every day... For instance.

City deliveries.

Trains can be run down electrified tracks.

Even on your farm... How many times do you run to and from the field in a pickup every day or to town for parts? A cyber truck can do all that. Put in some solar or wind generation and a power pack and you can basically bomb from field to field for free.


Costs are still high but coming down daily.

10 years ago people would have said you're crazy replacing an air powered impact with battery. How many air impacts do you use today?

Z many of these are the same people who were pissed because the market for buggy whips disappeared.

Its the glass is half empty crowd. Excessively pessimistic and negative about changing technology.

[farmaholic]

Z many of these are the same people who were pissed because the market for buggy whips disappeared.

Its the glass is half empty crowd. Excessively pessimistic and negative about changing technology.

You're kidding about adopting new technology right?

Just because some people think solar and wind power generation and storage hasn't evolved to reach its full potential yet and can't completely replace other mature power generating technologies doesn't mean some people think it has NO value.

[jazz]

You're kidding about adopting new technology right?

Just because some people think solar and wind power generation and storage hasn't evolved to reach its full potential yet and can't completely replace other mature power generating technologies doesn't mean some people think it has NO value.

Too bad chuck didnt actually farm. he might be amazed at the technology being used.

Imagine an arm chair tourist like him trying to tell actual farmers they are against technology.

[chuckChuck]

Back to the I dont farm BS? LOL Sorry to ruin your party But I am landowning capitalist farmer.

Many utilities and countries are already using large amounts of solar and wind.

But A5 and others keep telling us it wont work! LOL

An Australian Electrical operator says it is the cheapest generation sources there.

We still need backup and storage. The transition to many cleaner energy sources is well underway.