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    #61
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    If you are not in favour of racism what’s stopping you from denouncing police brutality against blacks or the proud boys?

    Systemic means that a racial group is treated differently by police services as a group. More unjustified stops, suspicion when nothing happened, very aggressive treatment or death when deescalation might have been a better option. It’s institutional racism. That is practiced repeatedly in a systemic way.
    Then go bring this crap up on a police chat forum ffs
    Get this crap off the Ag marketing site
    Your being incredibly antagonist trying to goad good posters here . It’s sickening already

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      #62
      Police chiefs are saying this because if they don’t they get canned and if they don’t we ll end up with less police because all these people locked up really shouldn t be be locked up right? The country side will be full of these angels running around stabbing robbing and murdering the rest of us.

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        #63
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        So there is no systemic racism?

        Many police chiefs and leaders have said yes systemic racism is real.

        There are certainly racist views within many different groups. But the issue is the overwhelming negative effects when it comes to first nations and black people. As a white person can you identify negative racist impacts to you personally? I can not. Most white people go through life with no experience of discrimination or racism.

        Big Wheel you are a fair minded knowledgeable person so why cant you accept what most people know to be true?
        “Systemic racism” the new catchprase of the leftard movement

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          #64
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Well most political leaders and police chiefs across the country say that systemic racism is real and a problem. So I think that horse has left the barn. Take a look at the facts on police brutality against black and indigenous people and the way people are treated before you tell us systemic racism is not real!
          Time to admit that there is systemic racism against white farmers .... it’s blatant in your face chuck
          The are scoping farmers yards and fields specifically and then stealing trucks
          That is systemic racism.....

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              #66
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              You are ignoring the issue and facts. Black people are several more times likely to be stopped and harassed by the police. They are also more likely to die at the hands of the police in cases like George Floyd. All lives matter is motherhood and apple pie. Focus on the real issue which is systemic racism against indigenous and black people. Suggesting that we need to focus on “all lives matter” is just your way of denying there is a problem.
              Chuck how about you intervene in one of those black lives matter protests, or better yet spend a week in jail with some of our finest citizens who you must think don’t belong in jail and then tell me what you think.

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                #67
                Most of you agree racism is bad. Correct?

                Then here is some reading so you can enlighten yourself on what systemic racism looks like in Canada.

                Five charts that show what systemic racism looks like in Canada

                https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/five-charts-that-show-what-systemic-racism-looks-like-in-canada-1.4970352 https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/five-charts-that-show-what-systemic-racism-looks-like-in-canada-1.4970352


                Here are some highlights:

                "The most recent census data from 2016 shows that Black Canadians face far steeper economic challenges than white Canadians and other racial groups. For example, Black Canadians make significantly less money than non-racialized Canadians regardless of how long their families have lived in Canada."

                As part of her research, Davis studied the impact on violence in youth communities in Toronto and Jamaica. The most profound finding, she said, was how strongly Black youth in Toronto pushed back against the idea that the greatest violence they had faced in their communities was physical violence.

                “They insisted that the most sustained, daily violence was the violence of the education system. It was teachers who did not believe in them, who stereotyped them, who over-disciplined and over-punished them, who constructed possibilities for them that were different from the possibilities for other children.”

                When it comes to hate crimes in Canada, Black people are far more likely than any other racial group to be victims of hate crimes, according to statistics from the Canadian Centre for Justice and Community Safety.

                Canada is often celebrated as a multicultural nation, but Davis said that doesn’t mean racism isn’t a present and pervasive force here.

                “It’s difficult for Canadians to hold in their minds at the same time this idea, this fervent belief, that they live in a democratic and even a multicultural society, and that racism can exist in that same society. When they see acts of racism like George Floyd’s death, they’re convinced that racism is perpetuated by only a few individuals or bad apples, but it’s not widespread,” she said.

                “We have to acknowledge that racism can look like hate, it can look like what happened to George Floyd, but that’s only one way it shows up. It shows up in apathy, in silence, in ignorance, in the refusal to really learn.

                "The reality is that racism is expressed not just as conscious acts of hate or violence, but it’s far more complex than that. It evolves out of a set of deeply rooted systems in our country. So deeply rooted that it might be easy to miss.”

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                  #68
                  George Floyd died because he started struggling with cops. Not because of racism. ONCE AGAIN CHUCK, if you struggle with the cops expect to get force used against you. Should the cop have taken it as far as he did? Absolutely not. He got caught up in the heat of the moment. But if Floyd had just been like a normal person and accepted that he had been caught, he wouldn't be dead today. Plain and simple. Not all of the blame should be placed on the cops for that. And it most definitely wasn't a case of racism, as much as the leftards want people to believe it was.

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                    #69
                    Are you serious? If so, you are pretty stupid in trying to spin George Floyd's murder at the hands of cops because he struggled! You can deny that racism was not part of the reason why Floyd died all you want but the majority of people will disagree.

                    Read the wikipedia description of what happened! He was handcuffed on the ground and cop knelt on Floyd's neck for several minutes[a] after he was already handcuffed and lying face down! So because he struggled at the start, his murder was justified? You are a wack job!

                    "On May 25, 2020, George Floyd, a 46-year-old African-American man, was killed in Minneapolis, Minnesota, while being arrested for allegedly using a counterfeit bill. During the arrest Derek Chauvin, a white police officer with the Minneapolis Police Department, knelt on Floyd's neck for several minutes[a] after he was already handcuffed and lying face down.[7][8][9] Two police officers, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane, assisted Chauvin in restraining Floyd, while a further officer Tou Thao prevented bystanders from interfering with the arrest and intervening as events unfolded.[10][11]:6:24

                    Floyd had complained about being unable to breathe prior to being on the ground, but after being restrained he became more distressed, and continued to complain about breathing difficulties, the knee in his neck, and expressed the fear he was about to die and called for his mother.[7] After several minutes passed Floyd stopped speaking.[7] For a further two minutes,[12] he lay motionless and officer Kueng found no pulse when urged to check.[13][14] Despite this Chauvin refused pleas to lift his knee until medics told him to.[15]:7:30

                    The following day, after videos made by witnesses and security cameras became public,[16][17][18] all four officers were dismissed. Two autopsies found Floyd's death to be a homicide.[19] Chauvin was initially charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter,[20][21] to which was later added second-degree murder. The three other officers were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder.[8][22][14]
                    Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 27, 2020, 08:56.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Are you serious? If so, you are pretty stupid in trying to spin George Floyd's murder at the hands of cops because he struggled! You can deny that racism was not part of the reason why Floyd died all you want but the majority of people will disagree.

                      Read the wikipedia description of what happened! He was handcuffed on the ground and cop knelt on Floyd's neck for several minutes[a] after he was already handcuffed and lying face down! So because he struggled at the start, his murder was justified? You are a wack job!

                      "On May 25, 2020, George Floyd, a 46-year-old African-American man, was killed in Minneapolis, Minnesota, while being arrested for allegedly using a counterfeit bill. During the arrest Derek Chauvin, a white police officer with the Minneapolis Police Department, knelt on Floyd's neck for several minutes[a] after he was already handcuffed and lying face down.[7][8][9] Two police officers, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane, assisted Chauvin in restraining Floyd, while a further officer Tou Thao prevented bystanders from interfering with the arrest and intervening as events unfolded.[10][11]:6:24

                      Floyd had complained about being unable to breathe prior to being on the ground, but after being restrained he became more distressed, and continued to complain about breathing difficulties, the knee in his neck, and expressed the fear he was about to die and called for his mother.[7] After several minutes passed Floyd stopped speaking.[7] For a further two minutes,[12] he lay motionless and officer Kueng found no pulse when urged to check.[13][14] Despite this Chauvin refused pleas to lift his knee until medics told him to.[15]:7:30

                      The following day, after videos made by witnesses and security cameras became public,[16][17][18] all four officers were dismissed. Two autopsies found Floyd's death to be a homicide.[19] Chauvin was initially charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter,[20][21] to which was later added second-degree murder. The three other officers were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder.[8][22][14]
                      That cop had numerous complaints about his conduct prior to this. Was it involving his actions only against blacks?
                      In this case he was wrong and should be charged made an example of whether it was racism or not why he did what he did.

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                        #71
                        Flea apparently doesn't believe in law and order.

                        Apparently it's okay or justified to kill unarmed people when arresting them if they struggle!

                        And he is absolutely sure because Floyd was black, that had nothing to do with it!

                        Even when told by many US police chiefs that racism is a problem in their forces he still doesn't believe systemic racism is an issue.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
                          [ATTACH]6683[/ATTACH]i think chuck and Brenda have a different definition of systemic racism.
                          I also think Chuck won't acknowledge your post.
                          I also think he will keep repeating his misinterpretation, oblivious and ignorant to the reality

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                            #73
                            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/brenda-lucki-systemic-racism-rcmp-1.5610355 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/brenda-lucki-systemic-racism-rcmp-1.5610355

                            Systemic racism exists in the RCMP, Commissioner Brenda Lucki says
                            'I do know that systemic racism is part of every institution, the RCMP included,' RCMP commissioner says

                            RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki said today that she believes systemic racism exists in the police force she leads — after telling several media outlets this week that she was "struggling" to define the term.

                            "I did acknowledge that we, like others, have racism in our organization, but I did not say definitively that systemic racism exists in the RCMP," Lucki said in a media statement. "I should have.

                            "As many have said, I do know that systemic racism is part of every institution, the RCMP included. Throughout our history and today, we have not always treated racialized and Indigenous people fairly."

                            Lucki said that, as the country's top cop, she has a responsibility to ensure the force is "free of racism, discrimination and bias."

                            Since the death of George Floyd in police custody in the U.S., police in North America have been facing greater scrutiny about their treatment of minorities and use of violence.

                            A number of videos have surfaced of police using aggressive force against Indigenous and Black people during arrests, leading to calls for law enforcement to be more sensitive to racial issues.

                            In the last two weeks, the RCMP has faced questions about some questionable conduct caught on camera.

                            One officer in Nunavut was seen slamming the door of his vehicle into an intoxicated man. Last night, a video surfaced of RCMP officers punching Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation Chief Allan Adam and putting him in a choke hold outside of a casino. The officer said the chief was resisting arrest. Adam was stopped for driving with expired plates.

                            "Systemic racism isn't about the behaviour of a single individual or the actions of one person. It's in the institutional structures that reflect the inequities that persist in our society. And it shows up in policies, processes or practices that may appear neutral on the surface, but disadvantage racialized people or groups," Lucki said.

                            The commissioner vowed to "work hard to address" systemic racism and "overcome it."

                            The CBC's Rosemary Barton interviewed Lucki days after Curtis Zablocki, the deputy commissioner for Alberta, said he doesn't believe there's systemic racism in policing in Canada.

                            Asked for her thoughts on systemic racism, Lucki initially dodged the question, saying Canada is a "society where inequalities persist" and the RCMP as an organization "can do better."

                            When pressed, Lucki said she has heard "about 15 or 20 definitions of systemic racism."

                            "If it refers to an unconscious bias that exists and we definitely have that in the RCMP and we are not immune to it at all," Lucki said.

                            She also told Global News she is "struggling with the definition of systemic racism" and then later told the Globe and Mail that "if systemic racism is meaning that racism is entrenched in our policies and procedures, I would say that we don't have systemic racism."

                            At a press conference in Edmonton Friday, Zablocki said he spent the week Googling terms like "structural racism" and "implicit bias," and speaking with his Indigenous advisory council, and now he feels differently about systemic racism in the ranks.

                            Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has defended Lucki in recent days, saying he trusts the commissioner to lead the force at this time. Trudeau appointed Lucki to the job in March 2018.

                            "I have confidence in Commissioner Lucki and I know that the changes that she has already begun to bring to our national police force, and the work that we're going to be doing together in the coming months, is going to make a huge difference in combating systemic racism and reducing it in this country," he said.

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                              #74
                              A5 just like you twist and turn most arguments and selectively avoid evidence that dosen't support your opinion you screwed up again reposting only the Lucki quote that supports your opinion.

                              Read what she said in my previous article to help you understand! What she says supports what I have been saying all along. Suck it up! You lost again! LOL

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                                #75
                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                Are you serious? If so, you are pretty stupid in trying to spin George Floyd's murder at the hands of cops because he struggled! You can deny that racism was not part of the reason why Floyd died all you want but the majority of people will disagree.

                                Read the wikipedia description of what happened! He was handcuffed on the ground and cop knelt on Floyd's neck for several minutes[a] after he was already handcuffed and lying face down! So because he struggled at the start, his murder was justified? You are a wack job!

                                "On May 25, 2020, George Floyd, a 46-year-old African-American man, was killed in Minneapolis, Minnesota, while being arrested for allegedly using a counterfeit bill. During the arrest Derek Chauvin, a white police officer with the Minneapolis Police Department, knelt on Floyd's neck for several minutes[a] after he was already handcuffed and lying face down.[7][8][9] Two police officers, J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane, assisted Chauvin in restraining Floyd, while a further officer Tou Thao prevented bystanders from interfering with the arrest and intervening as events unfolded.[10][11]:6:24

                                Floyd had complained about being unable to breathe prior to being on the ground, but after being restrained he became more distressed, and continued to complain about breathing difficulties, the knee in his neck, and expressed the fear he was about to die and called for his mother.[7] After several minutes passed Floyd stopped speaking.[7] For a further two minutes,[12] he lay motionless and officer Kueng found no pulse when urged to check.[13][14] Despite this Chauvin refused pleas to lift his knee until medics told him to.[15]:7:30

                                The following day, after videos made by witnesses and security cameras became public,[16][17][18] all four officers were dismissed. Two autopsies found Floyd's death to be a homicide.[19] Chauvin was initially charged with third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter,[20][21] to which was later added second-degree murder. The three other officers were charged with aiding and abetting second-degree murder.[8][22][14]
                                Did I say anywhere that Floyd’s death was justified? That is a big fat NO! I said the cop took it too far. The cop should be responsible for his actions. (Murder charge). But in no way can you spin this as racism.

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