Herbicide Resistance

[furrowtickler]

Often puzzled why Agriville rarely talks about agriculture, so, what ya gonna do about herbicide resistance?

Hope it just goes away? Expecting someone else to solve the problem? Can policy help? Regulatory?

Common sense
Crop rotation , herbicide rotation , addition of edge , rival , assert , you know some of the golden oldies ., plus increased seed rates on cereals . Additional certain foliage’s helps wth increased herbicide control .
Several options

[helmsdale]

I hope your right, but I can't see how group 2 resistant kochia hasn't spread everywhere. We had it 15 years ago. Lucky that we don't have anything resistant to glyphosate though. A few ounces of LV 700 in glyphosate really hammers everything.

you can lay on 540g/ac of glypho, full rate express SG, 4oz of 2-4D, and 2oz of banvil, and the kochia laugh it off!

1.3L of glufosinate at best kinks them.

540g of glypho with full rate heat, blackhawk, goldwing, aim, or even double rate distinct and they at best quit getting any taller... They still set seed and fail to dry down.

Hit them with reglone and they sort of defoliate. Sometimes they require 2 passes.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I hope your right, but I can't see how group 2 resistant kochia hasn't spread everywhere. We had it 15 years ago. Lucky that we don't have anything resistant to glyphosate though. A few ounces of LV 700 in glyphosate really hammers everything.

I assume we are too cold, or too wet, or these really high quality weeds that everyone else gets to deal with just don't like compacted acidic grey wooded clay. We don't have Kochia, or Cleavers, or foxtail(almost none), or brome ( except the tame stuff that gets seeded on purpose).

[malleefarmer]

[QUOTE=helmsdale;466770]you can lay on 540g/ac of glypho, full rate express SG, 4oz of 2-4D, and 2oz of banvil, and the kochia laugh it off!

1.3L of glufosinate at best kinks them.

Getting lost here ounces per acre then 1.3 L again per acre?

Give you some standard rates here you will have to wirk back.

Glyphosate at 450g/ litre active rate is around 1.8 litres per ha at 80 lt per ha water rate.

Paraquat 1.5 lt per ha 100 lt per ha water rate.

Halaxfop or verdict 100 ml per ha water rate 80 lt per ha.

Dicamba were used in a mix 300 ml per ha.

Avadex 1.6 to 2 litres per ha.

Mostchemicals here applied in 3 chem mix just not a single product. And rotated.

Interesting work our worst weed for many is ryegrass. For somehuge resistance issues.
If resistanct ryegrass is not sprayed zero chemicals nothing for 4 years the resitant plants are actually choked out by susceptable plants and when spraying returns in yr 5 the whole field is once again susceptible to all chemicals. Really new way to approach restance by just leaving it for grazing

[GALAXIE500]

Resistant kochia is a reality down here in the SW corner where we farm. Weeds are getting harder and harder to control . A poster on this forum was mentioning Glyphosate with 24-d. AAHH I remember those days. That works good for us for maybe 2 applications on chem fallow , after that nothing, maybe stunts them and that's it. Although if we would get some decent moisture on a regular basis in this godforsaken country I live in , it would help also. I do think that obviously water is a big factor in the effectiveness of the chemical , and I know all of you guys know that. Cultivator , and my trusty MF 360 discers ( I can hear a few of you cringe !) are being used where and when needed. Steel still has it's place down here. I am planning to increase seeding rates on my durum next spring. It has always worked for triticale and rye , so it's worth a shot. Planning also to use Authority for pre-seeding on pea ground also.

I like what I do , but sure would take some of the rain on a regular basis. Some of the BTO's around this area ( no offence to any of them ) are putting a LOT of $ into equipment and only getting at most a 25 bu/acre crop. To me the math does not work, but good on them. I heard there were some pulse crops in my area that only were yielding 5-10 bu/ac , so not too many payments made on that income.


Have a good weekend everyone , and here's to a good harvest !

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Often puzzled why Agriville rarely talks about agriculture, so, what ya gonna do about herbicide resistance?

Hope it just goes away? Expecting someone else to solve the problem? Can policy help? Regulatory?

Thanks for bringing up an ag related topic. I think I know how to solve your puzzle though.
If you click on the posters name in the column under the word author, then click on the link for find all threads started by, and do that for the most prolific posters, you will find a pattern, a few bad apples start most of the off topic threads( on both sides of the debate). A couple of particularly prolific thread starters haven't started a thread about agriculture in years, except the incidental post ranitng about big chemical companies. Too many of the rest of the threads are in response to a previous thread by one of the non farmer types.

Probably it is time to quit responding to Chuck again, he does seem to be less prolific if I quit taunting him. It would be a good start. But because this is a thread with agriculture in the title, he won't see this, and won't even know he is being ignored.

[malleefarmer]

Resistant kochia is a reality down here in the SW corner where we farm. Weeds are getting harder and harder to control . A poster on this forum was mentioning Glyphosate with 24-d. AAHH I remember those days. That works good for us for maybe 2 applications on chem fallow , after that nothing, maybe stunts them and that's it. Although if we would get some decent moisture on a regular basis in this godforsaken country I live in , it would help also. I do think that obviously water is a big factor in the effectiveness of the chemical , and I know all of you guys know that. Cultivator , and my trusty MF 360 discers ( I can hear a few of you cringe !) are being used where and when needed. Steel still has it's place down here. I am planning to increase seeding rates on my durum next spring. It has always worked for triticale and rye , so it's worth a shot. Planning also to use Authority for pre-seeding on pea ground also.

I like what I do , but sure would take some of the rain on a regular basis. Some of the BTO's around this area ( no offence to any of them ) are putting a LOT of $ into equipment and only getting at most a 25 bu/acre crop. To me the math does not work, but good on them. I heard there were some pulse crops in my area that only were yielding 5-10 bu/ac , so not too many payments made on that income.




Have a good weekend everyone , and here's to a good harvest !

Normal yields here tiswhat it is

[woodland]

[QUOTE=malleefarmer;466774]

you can lay on 540g/ac of glypho, full rate express SG, 4oz of 2-4D, and 2oz of banvil, and the kochia laugh it off!

1.3L of glufosinate at best kinks them.

Getting lost here ounces per acre then 1.3 L again per acre?

Give you some standard rates here you will have to wirk back.

Glyphosate at 450g/ litre active rate is around 1.8 litres per ha at 80 lt per ha water rate.

Paraquat 1.5 lt per ha 100 lt per ha water rate.

Halaxfop or verdict 100 ml per ha water rate 80 lt per ha.

Dicamba were used in a mix 300 ml per ha.

Avadex 1.6 to 2 litres per ha.

Mostchemicals here applied in 3 chem mix just not a single product. And rotated.

Interesting work our worst weed for many is ryegrass. For somehuge resistance issues.
If resistanct ryegrass is not sprayed zero chemicals nothing for 4 years the resitant plants are actually choked out by susceptable plants and when spraying returns in yr 5 the whole field is once again susceptible to all chemicals. Really new way to approach restance by just leaving it for grazing

That’s kinda the way we think here too. The weeds are usually different between a hay/pasture field and crop land. By the time you rotate them like sheepwheat talked about you’ve help kick the resistance issue a lot further down the road.

We still use iron here to incorporate manure, work in the corn leftovers, and break rough pasture and such.

Reliance on one single method of weed control isn’t going to end well.


Good topic tweety

[LEP]

Hey Tweety what do you do to deal with weed resistance?

[Partners]

Roundup resistance is because of the .33 rate on canola.
Tickled the weeds and pissed them off.
Up the rate and kill the buggers.
No issues here.
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