Herbicide Resistance

[tweety]

Yup I get , what should we be doing ?
Don’t have a chem lab here or any farm actually to make new herbicides .
Ration of crops and herbicides seem to be working well here. But yes it is an issue in many areas .
What do you propose ?
Not exactly much money left at the end of the day on most farms . Regardless of what some may think to continue to invest in much else .
Profit margins have been skinned to the bone already by the ag industry so not sure where all this new money will come from
Add in the doubling or more on carbon tax and coming seed tax’s and the cookie jar will be empty for any kind investment by the vast majority of farms .

First of all, the problem rests with more then just you.

Perhaps give a hint to the millions collected by the commissions that a potentially devastating problem is creeping up on farmers.

If farmers don't start doing something, nothing will happen till its way too late.

[furrowtickler]

First of all, the problem rests with more then just you.

Perhaps give a hint to the millions collected by the commissions that a potentially devastating problem is creeping up on farmers.

If farmers don't start doing something, nothing will happen till its way too late.

Of course the issue is widespread, who said is lt was not ?
What are you doing about it on your farm ? What’s your plan ? You claimed you farmed at one time no ?
Looking for answers just like you and everyone else .

[farmaholic]

Hmmm, herbicide "resistance". Are you referring to the general consumer population or plant's ability to mutate and have herbicide "tolerance"

Herbicide:

......Resistance,
......Tolerance,
......Acceptance.

[tweety]

Hmmm, herbicide "resistance". Are you referring to the general consumer population or plant's ability to mutate and have herbicide "tolerance"

Herbicide:

......Resistance,
......Tolerance,
......Acceptance.

Resistance refers to a herbicide that had a target site on a plant and controlled it, but no longer does. Just like drug resistance, fungicide resistance etc. Worked before, doesn't work now.

Special interest lobbying could result in the loss of a herbicide - like glyphosate. Even sadder/worse then resistance.

[farmaholic]

Well there goes my theory of you trying to get us talking about the "other" herbicide resistance.

[beaverdam]

" the loss of a herbicide - like glyphosate. "

The "grainco families" will suffer as much as primary producers. What are they doing?

[tweety]

" the loss of a herbicide - like glyphosate. "

The "grainco families" will suffer as much as primary producers. What are they doing?

oh no you don't, farmers have been passing the buck far too long. There isn't much profit margin left in products long off patent.

More importantly, what are you doing? What are your commissions doing? What are you doing to advocate to consumers you're not trying to kill them? What are farm orgs doing to directly deal with upcoming resistance issues?

And the "you" is farmers, not beaverdam specifically.

[tweety]

Well there goes my theory of you trying to get us talking about the "other" herbicide resistance.

Please stay on topic.

[Taiga]

I thought you were the ‘policy’ guy/girl. What do you want, what a waste of time you are.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

The only long term solution I see is to create a business and legal environment which would encourage research and development of new chemistries.
The current system, where after spending years/decades and countless millions of dollars to create a product, then prove its efficacy, and safety to every concievable species at every stage of growth, and every possible scenario, and then repeat it over again in every jurisdiction to get it registered, the company is still subject to nuisance lawsuits running into the billlions, based on circumstantial evidence, by people who apparently don't follow the label, put forth by parasitic lawyers, and encouraged by the likes of our very own Austranada.

Who in their right mind would expose themselves to such a risk?

As a lobbyist, this is where your efforts would be best directed, if this is the issue you feel is the most pressing. Unfortunately, I expect the Canadian market alone is too small to justify the expense of developing new chemistry, so it needs to be coordinated on a worldwide, which looks increasingly unlikely given the protectionist nature of the world today.

And even if this were to happen I would assume any new products would be a generation away at best.

[malleefarmer]

Ryegrass is one of the glyphosate resistance issues here on some farms.

Some enterprising guys this year planning to harvest it and sell it as glyphosate tolerant.

Livestock guys will be most interested.

Guess you guys have herbicide resistance testing services?

[Klause]

Start growing perennials.

Reduces the need for herbicides.