Herbicide Resistance

[malleefarmer]

Roundup resistance is because of the .33 rate on canola.
Tickled the weeds and pissed them off.
Up the rate and kill the buggers.
No issues here.
Switch from group 1 to 2.

Group 1 2 must be mode of action m similar to our a b c d

[malleefarmer]

Often puzzled why Agriville rarely talks about agriculture, so, what ya gonna do about herbicide resistance?

Hope it just goes away? Expecting someone else to solve the problem? Can policy help? Regulatory?

Some of the off topic stuff could maybe be comingled with organic farming forum, those that want to go there will.

But crikeys im guilty i put darn sheep and wool stuff in commodity section rather than its proper place.

[TOM4CWB]

Some of the off topic stuff could maybe be comingled with organic farming forum, those that want to go there will.

But crikeys im guilty i put darn sheep and wool stuff in commodity section rather than its proper place.

Mallee... keep up the good posts... we do appreciate your 'down under' perspective... it is refreshing and you are a wise and welcome poster here!!! Thanks for choosing to spend your time with us!!! Cheers!

[tweety]

Hey Tweety what do you do to deal with weed resistance?

I am involved in policy, what do you need?

Currently 69% of wild oats has at least one mode of resistance. Take the time to share your experience with these guys https://saskwheat.ca/news-articles/wild-oat-resistance-surevey https://saskwheat.ca/news-articles/wild-oat-resistance-surevey

Remember, this is a farmer problem, everyone else in the Ag sector will only bring expensive solutions (pardon the pun) to this farming problem.

I do find it interesting many think the answer to a chemical problem is a chemical solution.

[tweety]

One possible solution - but oh the energy. https://www.producer.com/2019/07/machine-controls-weeds-with-steam/ https://www.producer.com/2019/07/machine-controls-weeds-with-steam/

[farmaholic]

Tweety. If you would have seen what I saw the two past springs I doubt you would think tillage is a real good option.

Forages would be better than tillage.

Or only targeted pin point tillage.

But wide scale recreational tillage is dynamite under some circumstances in some areas.

I've even seen wild oats worse in tilled areas than untilled, you could see the line difference. Buried every wild oat that was laying on the surface then he had a carpet of it.

Tillage might be part of the solution but it is no replacement for an integrated program in my opinion.....not here anyway.

[farmaholic]

Rotating crops, and herbicide modes of action.
Having a healthy heavy competitive crop.
Using some pre-emerge herbicides.
Quit relying on the same chemistry.
Maybe perennial forages(yuk)
Mowing?
Targeted tillage(gasp)
Selling the land....lol.
Giving up rented land....lol.
Renting your land out.

[farmaholic]

Bucket made a real good comment to me.

"I can afford any herbicide, I can't afford for it not to work.

A perfect example of those are Edge/Avadex or surface applied Authority and such.

The cost of the risk of those products not working makes them too expensive, EVEN WHEN THEY DO WORK!!!

Does it pay for ChemCo' s to price their product out of the market. In doing so THEY are in essence contributing to Producer's problems. But why would they care?

[furrowtickler]

Bucket made a real good comment to me.

"I can afford any herbicide, I can't afford for it not to work.

A perfect example of those are Edge/Avadex or surface applied Authority and such.

The cost of the risk of those products not working makes them too expensive, EVEN WHEN THEY DO WORK!!!

Does it pay for ChwmCo's to price their product out of the market. In doing So THEY are in essence contributing to Producer's problems. But what do they care?

Very good point

[AlbertaFarmer5]

We have a plethora of unemployed people sitting at home being paid by our tax dollars to smoke weed. How about we send them out to pick resistant weeds instead? Or invasive weeds, or weeds in sensitive areas. With the ultimate goal of eliminating some problem weeds entirely.

Looks like this situation will last for years, especially if universal basic income becomes reality, here is a noble cause that will take years to complete.
Hand rogueing weeds has to be a better use of their time than rioting, looting or trolling forums.
Maybe we can all become organic in the process.

[blackpowder]

Wild oats the worst here for sure.
Rainfall patterns along with higher trash. Multiple growth stages. I dunno. Yes we have some 1-2 resistance.
Last year you could see a line where I spot sprayed 20 years ago LoL.
Using more pre emergent.
Have one field I'm going to deep till for a few reasons.
A farming thread,. Awesome.

[jamesb]

Back in the later 80's we went away from Treflan because of resistant wild millet. I remember when Odyssey came out, it killed kochia for a few years in peas. Herbicide resistance is manageable on most farms as long as good practices are used and have a diverse rotation. We didnt have soybeans this year but I miss them because they are a great crop to clean up the land, almost like a summer fallow, we planted flax this year for the first time in years and the crop type and the herbicide combinations used are a great change to the usual products. Monocultures will wreak havoc on the land IMO because there is just not enough diversity. Weeds and disease adapts. We actually started using some Treflan in recent years, not needing the millet control but treflan works on some other weeds like Japanese brome.