The biggest issues facing farmers ?

[Horse]

You will be happy to know that Trudeau bought into also helping fund 300 farmers about a million dollars a quarter for a stupid irrigation project.

But I guess that government funding is OK by your standards. ?

Here in tory blue Alberta we have welfare cowboys sponsored by the gov so they can have there high priced friends come out on an elk hunt, I guess everyone has their chosen ones.
Oh yes I forgot the three rivers dam and irrigation,made a few very rich Im sure they rember when it comes time to donate to favorite politician. Just accept it ,its easier than freting over it.

[bucket]

Actually no. I agree with you on that. But I am not going to preface every dollar spent by government with the idea that they should start printing and mailing them to everyone. Or it's not my idea of stimulating the economy by paying xx per acre to farmers.

I generally believe governments need to be responsible with our money and get out of the way.

True ...but when other countries like the USA are sending close to 75 billion in canadian funds to its farmers....and Europe is helping their farmers ....all the while Russia has poured money into their agriculture infrastructure .....is it fair to expect Canadian farmers to burn equity

Then also consider some other comments here about the age and the entry cost into farming.

There isn't the off farm jobs out there to fund farming like a few short years ago.

These are the conversations that have been lacking from our farm leaders to the government. Massive irrigation projects will not solve the farms problems...matter of fact if you look at it it adds problems because the workers are coming from other countries because there isn't the farm workers here.

[LEP]

True ...but when other countries like the USA are sending close to 75 billion in canadian funds to its farmers....and Europe is helping their farmers ....all the while Russia has poured money into their agriculture infrastructure .....is it fair to expect Canadian farmers to burn equity

Then also consider some other comments here about the age and the entry cost into farming.

There isn't the off farm jobs out there to fund farming like a few short years ago.

These are the conversations that have been lacking from our farm leaders to the government. Massive irrigation projects will not solve the farms problems...matter of fact if you look at it it adds problems because the workers are coming from other countries because there isn't the farm workers here.

Try as you might you can't make a case for an acreage payment here. Just because a foreign government does it doesn't mean that we should.

How are your corn or soybean yields this year?

My biggest concern is the friggin impending tax grab that is going come and shake the foundation of western cdn ag.

I don't know what the current aggregate farm profit is but if the feds grab another 15 or 20 percent annually it will make any possible one time acreage payment look like peanuts.

[furrowtickler]

Try as you might you can't make a case for an acreage payment here. Just because a foreign government does it doesn't mean that we should.

How are your corn or soybean yields this year?

My biggest concern is the friggin impending tax grab that is going come and shake the foundation of western cdn ag.

I don't know what the current aggregate farm profit is but if the feds grab another 15 or 20 percent annually it will make any possible one time acreage payment look like peanuts.

I am terribly afraid this will happen sooner than later with this current batch of crocks in Ottawa

[the big wheel]

Did Truduea slip up when he mentioned funding for IRRIGATION? Is this linked to the sask party 4 billion? Are they using federal money for
Their claimed stupid idea?

[bucket]

Did Truduea slip up when he mentioned funding for IRRIGATION? Is this linked to the sask party 4 billion? Are they using federal money for
Their claimed stupid idea?

They have to have the federal government involved because the water is federal jurisdiction and Quebec will need part in the building of it as well...

[the big wheel]

They have to have the federal government involved because the water is federal jurisdiction and Quebec will need part in the building of it as well...

Ya but are these idiots getting the funding and gonna say that’s why they’re broke yet get money federally for it? Truduea didn’t say approval he said funding for irrigation.

[sawfly1]

I agree old age, is a big one
But there is not shortage of hutterite kids or people
Wanting to rent land.
I may sound like a broken record on the seed
Ownership thing. But it is huge.
A new middleman that costs as much as the land,
For the use of the seed.and that is when they only
Control canola. What happens in 10 years when they
Control every single seed? Not like, screw em I will just plant wheat.
The own all that too.
Like two landlords now to pay .
Not my problem I guess ,I will be done by then anyway.
Even Tom cwb can see the writing on the wall now.
A little late ,mind you .
And he was one of the biggest cheerleaders for handing
rights away.
Guess what they will succeed taking over secan.
And everything else. Because cost does not matter.
We will pay for it in the end anyway.
Farmers having anything to do with seed ownership
Is not part of the plan.
That is kinda the whole idea. They tell us how much we
Pay, because we have no other choice.

Sorry for the rant.
But what was John Lennon s line .
You sound like f ing peasants to me.
You even own the land, but they own the seed .
So basically they own you.

[bucket]

you guys will like this line...

The government said the investment will help mitigate any private lender concerns about the risks associated with large projects that rely on commodity prices.


See where the private lender get its BRM from?

And once again farm groups are silent....

[burnt]

you guys will like this line...

The government said the investment will help mitigate any private lender concerns about the risks associated with large projects that rely on commodity prices.


See where the private lender get its BRM from?

And once again farm groups are silent....

That some supposedly intelligent person could make such a statement and yet overlook the obvious, bitter irony in it is simply staggering.

The real value of the human beings who produce food in Canada is now reduced to an insensate cog in the machinery, a commodity, or a currency the same as the price of the stuff we grow.

[burnt]

I agree old age, is a big one
But there is not shortage of hutterite kids or people
Wanting to rent land.
I may sound like a broken record on the seed
Ownership thing. But it is huge.
A new middleman that costs as much as the land,
For the use of the seed.and that is when they only
Control canola. What happens in 10 years when they
Control every single seed? Not like, screw em I will just plant wheat.
The own all that too.
Like two landlords now to pay .
Not my problem I guess ,I will be done by then anyway.
Even Tom cwb can see the writing on the wall now.
A little late ,mind you .
And he was one of the biggest cheerleaders for handing
rights away.
Guess what they will succeed taking over secan.
And everything else. Because cost does not matter.
We will pay for it in the end anyway.
Farmers having anything to do with seed ownership
Is not part of the plan.
That is kinda the whole idea. They tell us how much we
Pay, because we have no other choice.

Sorry for the rant.
But what was John Lennon s line .
You sound like f ing peasants to me.
You even own the land, but they own the seed .
So basically they own you.

Interesting thoughts and quote.

Sounds like Lennon and Lenin are interchangeable...

[bucket]

That some supposedly intelligent person could make such a statement and yet overlook the obvious, bitter irony in it is simply staggering.

The real value of the human beings who produce food in Canada is now reduced to an insensate cog in the machinery, a commodity, or a currency the same as the price of the stuff we grow.

You would think an intelligent reporter would maybe pick up on it as well?????