Hey admin Nicole

[Blaithin]

A simpler option is read and comment on the posts you want and ignore the rest. If you want only marketing discussions, only look at marketing discussions and ignore posts that are off topic. It isn't hard to do that is it?

Many posters have tried in vain to shut down or discredit any threads or comments they don't like in a variety of ways.

You can't complain about the loss freedom of speech and then suggest blocking or banning any particular poster. LOL

I think the real issue for many of the mal contents is they don't want anyone posting something they disagree with. Many Agrivillers seem to think they own Agriville and can decide what is discussed!

It's a funny attitude considering many of the worst offenders claim to be freedom loving libertarians!

Here’s a kink in your theory.

I agree with a lot that you say.

I’m just sick of seeing you proclaiming it. It’s old and over done now. It doesn’t require tri weekly threads. Everyone knows how you feel.

If I wanted to talk constant politics then I would go to platforms for that topic. This is a platform for ag. I want to discuss ag here.

Maybe you could work towards a balance Chuck. Of actually discussing ag without overwhelming everyone with everything else you find important. I assure you, it can be done. Most on here will know I’m not particularly right leaning yet somehow they got that impression without me posting a thousand threads that have grown obnoxious due to their numbers.

You can hide behind the idea of just having discussions but rarely do you seem to have discussions. You talk at people. People mock you. Rinse. Repeat. That’s not discussing.

You are like a town cryer standing on a platform in the square. Everyone tries to ignore you but sometimes we get hit with the splatter of a tomato that’s been tossed at you.

[chuckChuck]

Well A5 you are not the sharpest tool if you think that influencing the outcome of the US election is our goal! LOL

It’s just fun to watch the mal contents squirm and justify their support for the president who thinks bleach taken internally might cure Covid! What do you think A5? Bleach??? Is Donald great in your mind? Haha

[burnt]

Here’s a kink in your theory.


Maybe you could work towards a balance Chuck.

I am again impressed with your diplomacy and spirit. However, while obviously very well-intentioned, there is a fatal flaw in your kind offering - mental health experts agree that there is no possibility for adjustment or meaningful compromise when dealing with a narcissist.

Everyone is able and well-advised to read about it and learn that for themselves. It doesn't change the problem, but it helps to maintain one's own well-being when encountering those displaying such an illness.

As one clinical psychologist very clearly stated, "The only thing a narcissist responds to is consequences".

In such cases, the best response in none. Because any response will be turned into gas-lighting, manipulation and more fuel for further abuse of their target.

Narcissists are not interested in building, simply destroying.

Folks can do whatever they think best, but to go against the science and expect positive results is obviously counter-productive.

We are witnessing some fairly significant mental disturbances among a few and to provoke it is anything but humane.

[chuckChuck]

Here’s a kink in your theory.

I agree with a lot that you say.

I’m just sick of seeing you proclaiming it. It’s old and over done now. It doesn’t require tri weekly threads. Everyone knows how you feel.

If I wanted to talk constant politics then I would go to platforms for that topic. This is a platform for ag. I want to discuss ag here.

Maybe you could work towards a balance Chuck. Of actually discussing ag without overwhelming everyone with everything else you find important. I assure you, it can be done. Most on here will know I’m not particularly right leaning yet somehow they got that impression without me posting a thousand threads that have grown obnoxious due to their numbers.

You can hide behind the idea of just having discussions but rarely do you seem to have discussions. You talk at people. People mock you. Rinse. Repeat. That’s not discussing.

You are like a town cryer standing on a platform in the square. Everyone tries to ignore you but sometimes we get hit with the splatter of a tomato that’s been tossed at you.

I have tried posting my thoughts backed up with evidence from world class organizations and news sources. It doesn’t work! The mal contents attack and insult. Fair enough I do some of that as well.

As I said the bar for discussions on Agriville has been set quite low. In fact the amount of absolute conspiratorial hyper partisan malarkey is so high no one would ever mistake this site as a serious discussion Forum for ag! LOL

If you don’t like what I post don’t read it! It’s really quite a simple solution.

[Blaithin]

I am again impressed with your diplomacy and spirit. However, while obviously very well-intentioned, there is a fatal flaw in your kind offering - mental health experts agree that there is no possibility for adjustment or meaningful compromise when dealing with a narcissist.

Everyone is able and well-advised to read about it and learn that for themselves. It doesn't change the problem, but it helps to maintain one's own well-being when encountering those displaying such an illness.

As one clinical psychologist very clearly stated, "The only thing a narcissist responds to is consequences".

In such cases, the best response in none. Because any response will be turned into gas-lighting and more fuel for further abuse of their target.

Folks can do whatever they think best, but to go against the science and expect positive results is obviously counter-productive.

We are witnessing some fairly significant mental disturbances among a few and to provoke it is anything but humane.

And that is where I feel this forum, while nicely not moderated, has room for moderation. Instead of just being a forgotten offshoot if a website.

If Chuck, or others, are so narcissistic, or absolutely just here to stir the pot, as his last post indicates, then he is a troll. Trolls are not contributing members. Trolls cannot be allowed to flourish simply because they create traffic for ads. (Dumb reason really)

So either they get directed to appropriate sections and hold the discussions they want to there. Or they continue to demonstrate trolling by simply only desiring to create disruption. If there is nobody willing to moderate (there are times I greatly want a report post option on this site. Usually for spam but it would have other uses I’m sure) then it’s up to the forum members themselves to ignore the disruptive. However that is easier said than done.

If Chuck can’t act like an adult, maybe it’s time someone helps him along that path. Creating a subsection for him would be the nicest option.

[Blaithin]

I have tried posting my thoughts backed up with evidence from world class organizations and news sources. It doesn’t work! The mal contents attack and insult. Fair enough I do some of that as well.

As I said the bar for discussions on Agriville has been set quite low. In fact the amount of absolute conspiratorial hyper partisan malarkey is so high no one would ever mistake this site as a serious discussion Forum for ag! LOL

If you don’t like what I post don’t read it! It’s really quite a simple solution.

I don’t. You lost me a few years back actually. It’s just when you randomly pop into other threads I’m forced to skim past your posts. My biggest annoyance is actually people bringing your name up when you are nowhere around. How’s that for LOL

It may be purely coincidental that the best discussions I’ve had and read on here were threads you never even made an appearance in. So either you had nothing to contribute to those good discussions or you didn’t even read them at all, in which case you can’t really comment on the height of the bar.

[LEP]

You can hide behind the idea of just having discussions but rarely do you seem to have discussions. You talk at people. People mock you. Rinse. Repeat. That’s not discussing.

You are like a town cryer standing on a platform in the square. Everyone tries to ignore you but sometimes we get hit with the splatter of a tomato that’s been tossed at you.[/QUOTE]


It must be how they were trained at NFU bootcamp as it is definitely their way of communicating.

[chuckChuck]

So is posting Information from world class scientific organizations considered trolling? Come on Blaithin. Surely you can do better than that!

I have done that many times much to the chagrin of the flat earthers!

As I said most of the arguments like A5 telling us a shortage of CO2 is going to be a big problem is laughable ! No credible evidence just a lot of useless spin and hot air! Do you think that is appropriate given the serious nature of the issue?

[Blaithin]

So is posting Information from world class scientific organizations considered trolling? Come on Blaithin. Surely you can do better than that!

I have done that many times much to the chagrin of the flat earthers!

As I said most of the arguments like A5 telling us a shortage of CO2 is going to be a big problem is laughable ! No credible evidence just a lot of useless spin and hot air! Do you think that is appropriate given the serious nature of the issue?

No, if you did it once in a while it would be fine.

The fact you do it constantly with the evident goal of getting someone to take the bait is what makes it troll behaviour.

Also, (and hopefully this doesn’t ruin Burnts opinion of me!) I am a product of the internet age. I grew up on the cesspits that were IRC and Yahoo chats. I am quite the accomplished troll when I get the urge to be. The best and easiest ways to troll? Excessive use of the capitalized acronyms LOL, LMAO, LMFAO, PMSL, etc. And don’t even try and pull the “it’s grammatically correct to capitalize an acronym” card. Excessive use of laughing faces also, which I’m sure you would use as well. I know how to troll. You sir, troll.

I recently read an article, Why Facts Don’t Change Minds. Here’s a link in case it tickles your fancy.

https://jamesclear.com/why-facts-dont-change-minds

Perhaps you may end up adjusting your approach. The one you are currently taking obviously isn’t getting anyone to actually, visibly, consider what you’re saying. A tweaking of your methodology might have you seeing better results.

One should also consider their audience. I think Birth Control is a big issue facing women but I’m not going to build a pedestal to talk about it here. Hardly the audience that will discuss it with me in the way I would want.

Unless your goal isn’t to have intelligent discourse and exchanging of knowledge?

[chuckChuck]

I am not expecting to change the mind of the flat earthers ever. But it is useful to point out their Thinking is completely flawed because it makes it difficult for them to say much in public when they know their arguments fall apart quickly when scrutinized.

To each their own. If you don’t like the Wild West of social media then I suggest shutting it off.

[agstar77]

Me thinks you protest too much! A lot of chattter for something you don't think is important. Singling out someone because they have different views from the majority of the posters on this site does not make your case.

[chuckChuck]

Blaithin, If you want to fix Agriville when have you spoken Up about the blatant misogyny, racism and bigotry apparent in many posts?

Their is a constant stream of personal attacks against Liberals especially Liberal women cabinet ministers. Show us an example of when you called this out.

[Blaithin]

I am not expecting to change the mind of the flat earthers ever. But it is useful to point out their Thinking is completely flawed because it makes it difficult for them to say much in public when they know their arguments fall apart quickly when scrutinized.

To each their own. If you don’t like the Wild West of social media then I suggest shutting it off.

Useful to whom?

I’m just offering advice. You want to be listened to, have discussions, then adjust your approach.

You want to preach... well you already do that. I don’t know about you but I always zone out around preachers. They don’t tend to get their message across.

People can disagree with one another without it turning into mudslinging events.

Rather amusing that your advice is to ignore you, and when I say Oh don’t worry, I usually do that, but also offer up a conversation alternative to ignoring, you suggest maybe I should leave the internet? Do you not like being ignored or you don’t like the idea of self change when it pertains to yourself?

Look, you don’t want to adjust your approach that’s your prerogative. I’m fine carrying on as I have been. But the irony of suggesting I quit the internet because you don’t like my view on the matter... well maybe you should just ignore me

[agstar77]

Not to mention the conspiracy theories , blatant falsehoods and the constant bashing of anyone who disagrees as a commie etc. Joe Mcarthy would have been proud.

[Blaithin]

Blaithin, If you want to fix Agriville when have you spoken Up about the blatant misogyny, racism and bigotry apparent in many posts?

Their is a constant stream of personal attacks against Liberals especially Liberal women cabinet ministers. Show us an example of when you called this out.

Quite a few actually.

Not often in political posts as I try not to read those and you don’t usually frequent the ones I’m active it, but it does happen occasionally.

However, as I said, I’m here to discuss ag. It’s a fact of life that I personally experience almost weekly, that women, especially young women, are looked down on in the industry. So if I want to have ag discussions I do not constantly bring up misogyny or racism or bigotry. That won’t get me any discussions with anyone, it will get me left standing alone in a corner.

Consider my approach to be more subtle. I have no desire to have a full frontal attack on people for things that the majority of the time they don’t even realize they’re doing. Every man who stares at my chest instead of my eyes when talking would be in for a real ear full if that was the case, and I have little doubt you’d be different Chuck. I’ve been told it’s a “subconscious reflex” or something like that haha

So instead of getting a fight on with the guys here about how I think they speak very derogatorily about female cabinet ministers, I would rather prove by example that women can offer up intelligent conversation, even if they have different political ideals or opinions opposite to the current trend.

Yourself or agstar are more passionate in your proclamations, against racism particularly. Can’t say I’ve ever seen you come to the defence of women. You seem very judgemental in the idea that if people aren’t as vociferous as yourselves than they must not believe as you do. But there’s a lot of area between mask wearing, racist and judgemental prig. Most of us are going to fall somewhere in the middle, rarely condemning others, simply focusing on our own worlds and our own selves. There’s nothing wrong with that. We all form different relationships with different people and some of those relationships are not conducive to constantly calling out discrimination.

Don’t make the mistake in thinking that because someone doesn’t start brouhahas over certain subjects on here, they don’t feel strongly about something. There are times and places for those kinds of discussions and I personally don’t think brouhahas accomplish anything anyway.

And who said anything about fix Agriville? I’d just be happy with a restructuring so it’s easier to find the things I want to read about.