Durum Non Prevharvest Premium

[seldomseen]

Swathed my oats this year And RP will have a .10 cent premium on oats for glyfos free oats starting in the new year. Woopy!
I called P&H and asked what they were doing? They told me they were doing nothing with glyfos free. Then that evening when I checked e-mail there was a affidavit to sign from P&H stating that my oats were free of glyfos.
Don’t think I will be selling them to P&H

[walterm]

Swathed my oats this year And RP will have a .10 cent premium on oats for glyfos free oats starting in the new year. Woopy!
I called P&H and asked what they were doing? They told me they were doing nothing with glyfos free. Then that evening when I checked e-mail there was a affidavit to sign from P&H stating that my oats were free of glyfos.
Don’t think I will be selling them to P&H

All these declarations and affidavits farmers sign are liable and based on the sample the elevator takes but you never see even the CGC won't take as an official sample to give a subject too grade on but you are putting possibly your bankruptcy on the line on a sample they take store and have access tooand they would be the ones claiming you broke contract. Think about that does that seem right or fair. Is that sample tube, box, container clean before your sample goes in? Is there any chance that your sample could be mixed up with a sample that looks much the same in the same looking sample container in the same storage bin or shelf?

[Rareearth]

Swathing can create many mold, mildew, wild bird (ducks unlimited, etc. ) and mammalian (mouse, skunk, deer , moose, etc) poop issues.

Much safer and higher quality to straight cut grains.

[farmaholic]

Walter, I bet the samples I take in fall are more representative of what's in the bin than the composite of the samples taken from the loads taken from that bin taken by the probe at terminals.
....but mine is no good!

It's almost laughable. We're best under the thumb of........

[Blaithin]

I wonder when it was decided that poop is more dangerous than chemicals?

Don’t get me wrong, I understand not wanting to get rejected for contaminated grain. Not talking about that.

Just how have we evolved to the point we’re terrified of poop yet a-okay with chemicals. It’s curious. I’ve never heard anyone claim poop causes cancer. Never heard that - in the context of wildlife pooping in a field - it does environmental damage. Never heard that it harms our own gut biome. In fact, many animals purposely eat poop to boost their gut biome (although it’s usually their own species poo).

Sure poop issues can suck. Giardia, E. coli, salmonella, campy... all no fun. But compared to the concerns about chemicals I wonder how they really stack up.

Just my nighttime pondering I guess. How culture has directed us towards being poophobic but alright with other things.

[farming101]

The dose makes the poison...

[farmaholic]

The dose makes the poison...

I'm toxic at any rate.

Mars is supposedly close to earth tonight, probably close enough for the in-laws to pop in for a visit. That's too close.

[bucket]

I'm toxic at any rate.

Mars is supposedly close to earth tonight, probably close enough for the in-laws to pop in for a visit. That's too close.

Is that the red dot in the eastern sky I seen last night?

[the big wheel]

I wonder when it was decided that poop is more dangerous than chemicals?

Don’t get me wrong, I understand not wanting to get rejected for contaminated grain. Not talking about that.

Just how have we evolved to the point we’re terrified of poop yet a-okay with chemicals. It’s curious. I’ve never heard anyone claim poop causes cancer. Never heard that - in the context of wildlife pooping in a field - it does environmental damage. Never heard that it harms our own gut biome. In fact, many animals purposely eat poop to boost their gut biome (although it’s usually their own species poo).

Sure poop issues can suck. Giardia, E. coli, salmonella, campy... all no fun. But compared to the concerns about chemicals I wonder how they really stack up.

Just my nighttime pondering I guess. How culture has directed us towards being poophobic but alright with other things.

I ve wondered how much glyphosate can or is measured in a seed after a ore harvest spray occurs? Or in crop of any chemical for that matter can it be measured?

[Blaithin]

I ve wondered how much glyphosate can or is measured in a seed after a ore harvest spray occurs? Or in crop of any chemical for that matter can it be measured?

I’m sure it can. There’s no way they can find it in other places but not the field. The amounts are probably just incredibly low and only increase as bio amplification occurs. (But after years of use I wonder if it’s slowly built up in the field as well?)

What did they always say? Glyph becomes inactive when it hits dirt? Obviously not, or at least it’s inactivity isn’t synonymous with it breaking down. And if it hasn’t broke down then how inactive is it really. Or it’s just such a low dose as to be inactive.

Other chems/products have reactions further down the line when their amounts build up. Can’t see why glyph would be any different.