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    #73
    Originally posted by jazz View Post
    GDR the richest families on the planet own a lot of stuff. Thats how generational wealth flows forward. There are families still around that have owned prime land in europe for over 1000 yrs. Somehow they keep that land in the family, protected it from the govt and even world wars.

    We are going back to serf times if we give up our property.
    To be clear I'm not advocating for anything just brainstorming but the tone of your post makes me think you are not in favour of the rich families holding that land for 1000yrs. So isnt that sort of a nimby attitude? Not ok for them but should be for us? Look at all the losers that are born into those rich families, they either cant tie their own shoes or they seem to get involved in illegal stuff or involved with cults. I'm just not a believer in making it too easy for the next gen, get off your ass and get to work. But once they get to work get out if their way and keep the gov out of their pockets.

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      #74
      Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
      Right here in Saskatchewan's provincial election campaign, the NDP has proposed a wealth tax !

      The left is determined to tax the "makers" and give it to the "takers"

      Easy peasy, use the wealth of others to buy a political base that will vote for you. Problem is, those policies just lead to fewer "makers" and more "takers". The "takers" will always vote for more free stuff, the "makers" will eventually move away with what they can, or be taxed so heavily they end up being "takers" as well.
      Begin at 1:20 - 2:35. Illustrates your post, beaverdam.

      Last edited by burnt; Oct 8, 2020, 10:33.

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        #75
        Originally posted by GDR View Post
        I'm just not a believer in making it too easy for the next gen, get off your ass and get to work. But once they get to work get out if their way and keep the gov out of their pockets.
        I am with you but that pull yourself up by the boot straps is going to be near impossible in a socialist environment.

        I want my kids to have initiative and make a way for themselves but I also dont want them on a work tax treadmill to poverty either which is where I think most regular wage earners will be heading.

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          #76
          Originally posted by GDR View Post
          Reality is Furrow that most of us that identify as middle class are not. I'm not sure how many farmers are that top 1% but I'd say pretty well all farmers are in the top 10%.
          I am talking billionaires , we would not even touch their pocket change
          The George Soros , Bill Gates , Warren Buffet , Bezos type of wealthy elites
          There would not be more than a very few farmers in the world in that league, not even close

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            #77
            Or even higher up like the Rockefeller’s and company.

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              #78
              The 0.1% use panama and switzerland to hide wealth. Farmers can use south dakota.

              https://www.internationalinvestment.net/internationalinvestment/news/3503196/sioux-falls-south-dakota-%E2%80%98-offshore-wealth-magnet%E2%80%99-ft Sioux Falls, South Dakota is 'new offshore wealth magnet

              Dynasty trusts are a type of trust that’s designed to avoid or minimise certain types of tax, such as inheritance and estate tax, and are typically used to pass money on to multiple generations of descendants while paying as little in taxes as possible.

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                #79
                Jazz in your response that you have a choice, not to seed a particular canola.
                What choices do you have ,, please list the Canola varieties less than 25 years old you have a right to seed.
                That is the problem, even Quest the first RR canola , what 30 years ago. Nope
                We signed use agreements ,
                It really matters not if the patent has expired, you have never owned it.
                We Only purchased the right to plant it for one season.
                It is not yours to plant even 30 years later. And all seed will be like that soon.
                I have no problem with rewarding innovation,
                But off patent varieties must be accessible.
                You can see how removing all other choices affects the price they get for the newest ones.
                Once the big guys rid the system of any breeder not willing to play the game.
                Look out 60$ /acre wheat seed here we come. Then canola can be 120$
                What is to stop them, if you do not have ownership of even a 30 year old seed .
                Pay up or don't plant, anything.
                If you have any public breeding left , I would be inclined to keep it, even if what they have
                Is not the greatest.

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                  #80
                  Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                  Jazz in your response that you have a choice, not to seed a particular canola.
                  What choices do you have ,, please list the Canola varieties less than 25 years old you have a right to seed.
                  That is the problem, even Quest the first RR canola , what 30 years ago. Nope
                  We signed use agreements ,
                  It really matters not if the patent has expired, you have never owned it.
                  We Only purchased the right to plant it for one season.
                  It is not yours to plant even 30 years later. And all seed will be like that soon.
                  I have no problem with rewarding innovation,
                  But off patent varieties must be accessible.
                  You can see how removing all other choices affects the price they get for the newest ones.
                  Once the big guys rid the system of any breeder not willing to play the game.
                  Look out 60$ /acre wheat seed here we come. Then canola can be 120$
                  What is to stop them, if you do not have ownership of even a 30 year old seed .
                  Pay up or don't plant, anything.
                  If you have any public breeding left , I would be inclined to keep it, even if what they have
                  Is not the greatest.
                  Hey sawfly posted on sask3 crop report re seed tax. I just dont understand it.

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                    #81
                    Originally posted by sawfly1 View Post
                    Jazz in your response that you have a choice, not to seed a particular canola.
                    What choices do you have ,, please list the Canola varieties less than 25 years old you have a right to seed.
                    That is the problem, even Quest the first RR canola , what 30 years ago. Nope
                    We signed use agreements ,
                    It really matters not if the patent has expired, you have never owned it.
                    We Only purchased the right to plant it for one season.
                    It is not yours to plant even 30 years later. And all seed will be like that soon.
                    I have no problem with rewarding innovation,
                    But off patent varieties must be accessible.
                    You can see how removing all other choices affects the price they get for the newest ones.
                    Once the big guys rid the system of any breeder not willing to play the game.
                    Look out 60$ /acre wheat seed here we come. Then canola can be 120$
                    What is to stop them, if you do not have ownership of even a 30 year old seed .
                    Pay up or don't plant, anything.
                    If you have any public breeding left , I would be inclined to keep it, even if what they have
                    Is not the greatest.
                    It wasn't a like. I was trying to reply. Anyhoo if you reread Jazz's comment. He said you can choose not to grow canola period. No mention of choosing a particular variety.

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                      #82
                      There is lots we can do to starve the beast sawfly, we just arent desperate enough yet. But that day may be coming.

                      If big biz and govt align to drain wealth from this industry and distribute it to the needy, you can bet I wont be going for big yields anymore.

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                        #83
                        Not grow canola period.
                        Well that is an option, but 10 20
                        Years from now your only Choice may be
                        Brandon wheat ,whatever. If it is still acceptable
                        To buyers then. Or some fungus has not attacked it.
                        Or you can find seed for it.
                        Then you kinda have a choice , rather than
                        Full retail on whatever they are offering.
                        They do not vac a bin , they have invested
                        Zero in land , they never set foot on the place.
                        Never got dusty once. And with some seeds
                        You are replicating their seed for them.
                        They with the govt.s help just collect the money.
                        Even at port
                        Bypassing tom and crew that thought they would
                        Cash in when farmers had to buy certified every year.
                        They do not need you Tom. They do not give a crap.
                        I think he finally figured that out.

                        They will get their coin. Anyway, Sorry.

                        I truly think this is a dangerous path for consumer
                        And producer alike to legaly introduce a third party
                        That owns every seed on the planet.
                        No no no no no no no
                        It is just wrong

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                          #84
                          "It's only on the brink..." huh.



                          huh.

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